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[Fermilab scientists] have found more evidence that sub-atomic particles, called muons, are not behaving in the way predicted by the current theory of sub-atomic physics.

Scientists believe that an unknown force could be acting on the muons.

All of the forces we experience every day can be reduced to just four categories: gravity, electromagnetism, the strong force and the weak force. These four fundamental forces govern how all the objects and particles in the Universe interact with each other.

The findings have been made at a US particle accelerator facility called Fermilab. They build on results announced in 2021 in which the Fermilab team first suggested the possibility of a fifth force of nature.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

These Dota 2 hero teasers are getting really complicated

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

me who has only just recently watched a bunch of BobbyBroccoli documentaries on physics "mmm yes I understand this perfectly"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

According to IGN:

Muons

have a mass the equivalent to 200 times that of an electron, yet last just 2.2 millionths of a second.

Sounds like made-up shit Big Science is using to request more money

Muons go brrrrrrrrrrrrr

and

the team discovered that the Muons were wobbling faster than the Standard Model had predicted. This could indicate the presence of a new force acting on the Muon, or an as-yet unknown subatomic particle altering the nature of the quantum foam that surrounds the Muon.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

last just 2.2 millionths of a second

just like me fr fr

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Giving them the best plank second of their lives.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

No. Absolutely not. There's too much going on right now. Tell the 5th fundamental force to come back later.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Anyone knowledgeable have a concise take on particle accelerators? Like, are they working as hoped/expected? Are we going to keep building ever-larger ones to find even more secrets? Is there a possibility we look back in 50 years and realize we spent a lot of effort on a failed theory? My understanding is limited, but I am generally in-support of big science projects.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Now i never specialised in particle accelerators and i can only speak for syncrotron type accelerators (like Diamond in the UK) but i took exams about them and i got to tour one so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Generally, they're a pretty normal thing in particle physics and materials science now, like, they're places where a bunch of people have relatively dull 9-5 jobs and parts of them are rented out to random companies. Mostly they're used for medical/drug research and semiconductor stuff now, and to my knowledge they've discovered nothing that would excite the general public for years.

They can't really be a 'failed theory', because they're SUPER useful for telling us whats in shit and how materials behave, they're just not the magical world-ending bullshit that the news like to say they are. No one really expected them to be (except the media trying to farm clicks). Making stuff go fast is fun and informative, thats all we need party-parrot-science

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Nice. Yeah, I figured they must have some variety of relatively mundane applications or else it really wouldn't make sense to spend billions of dollars on these huge facilities. I'd imagine it would be kind of like a supercomputer or a telescope, where the infrastructure gets built and then different groups take turns running experiments and gathering data for their specific projects.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've heard that we hit diminishing returns a while ago and we're at a point where whatever we're seeing is so ephemeral and minute that any conclusions drawn from it are questionable. But I'm just some guy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I’ve heard similar, which is why I asked. I figure that there must be more to it than just testing the standard model, though. I can’t imagine the neoliberal academic apparatus is going to spend Ukraine-weapons-shipment kind of money just for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Oh shiiiiiit physics was about to get crazy!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I present the second gender published just yesterday

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02532-6