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This. Is. An. Investment. In. Democracy. (hexbear.net)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

then I guess Democracy didn't mean that much to the west huh

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

I been hacked. All my democracy gone

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

This 👏 Is 👏 An 👏 Investment 👏 In 👏 Democracy

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Democracy sucks. You want the hivemind of neo-nazis voting in legalizing a random crime "for teh lulz" or voting in a random genocide? No thanks.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

God fucking damn it, even if you're a bit account don't fedpost like this. Democracy is not the problem, liberalism (i.e. the allowance of capital to be the dominant force in society) is the problem. The position of communists is one of trying to bring about a democracy that is not dictated by media ownership, lobbying, and various other vectors of control used by capitalists.

Bourgeois democracy, although a great historical advance in comparison with medievalism, always remains, and under capitalism is bound to remain, restricted, truncated, false and hypocritical, a paradise for the rich and a snare and deception for the exploited, for the poor. It is this truth, which forms a most essential part of Marx’s teaching, that Kautsky the “Marxist” has failed to understand. On this—the fundamental issue—Kautsky offers “delights” for the bourgeoisie instead of a scientific criticism of those conditions which make every bourgeois democracy a democracy for the rich.

-- Lenin, PRRK

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

One of the problems is that the term "democracy" has been completely hijacked by liberal democracy and its media arms so that only democracy that looks like western bourgeois democracy is real democracy and everything else is authoritarianism.

You can even see the definition shift back and forth depending on how libs feel about the country in question. Japan is a democracy, except when a rich westoid is being put on trial for corruption, then it's a all sorts of unfair and authoritarian and their conviction rates are too high.