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The Signal Server repository hasn't been updated since April 2020. There are a bunch of links about this here but I found this thread the most interesting.

To me, this is unforgivable behaviour. Signal always positioned themselves as "open source", and the Server itself is under the best license for server software (AGPLv3 -- which raises questions about the legality of this situation).

Signal's whole approach to open source has constantly been underwhelming to say the least. Their budget-Apple attitude (secrecy, i.e. "we can never engage the community directly", "we will never merge/accept PRs", etc) has lead to its logical conclusion here, I guess. I have been somewhat of a "Signal apologist" thus far (I almost always defend them & I think a lot of criticism they get it very unfair) but yeah I'm over Signal now.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago (4 children)

The thing is, I first thought that it was not updated frequently simply because the server side of Signal is really simple (it's only role is to forward messages after all), so the code was very rarely touched.

However there seems to be people that have tried to run their own infrastructure that are not able to get some features to work.

Would it be even legal for them to run an updated version of the server without releasing it as FLOSS given the AGPL license?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 years ago

The legality of this is unclear. If their silence on this topic isn't because they're trying to do their best Apple role-play (which is most likely, imo), the cynic in me says it's because they acknowledge they should publish the source ASAP in compliance with the AGPLv3.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 years ago (2 children)

If you are the sole owner of the copyright of some software you can do whatever you want with it. The license applies to others, not yourself.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 years ago

not trying to be rude, but uh, no shit? I think it's malicious of them to say that they're end to end open source to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (17 children)

I never used Signal. I use P2P apps instead. I wonder why people still use centralized messengers. Theres a lot of P2P messengers available. Theres a few here

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