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The unofficial Lemmy movement to bring proportional representation to all levels of government in Canada.

Voters deserve more choice and accountability from all politicians.

Le mouvement non officiel de Lemmy visant à amener la représentation proportionnelle à tous les niveaux de gouvernement au Canada.

Les électeurs méritent davantage de choix et de responsabilité de la part de tous les politiciens.

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Nous recherchons davantage de modérateurs, notamment ceux qui sont d'identité française et autochtone.

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Conservatives Should Not Be Against Proportional Representation (lemmy.ca)

submitted 2 months ago by Sunshine to c/fairvote

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[–] ahal 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More posts like this! We need to shift the narrative that PR is a leftist thing if we want any chance of it succeeding.

More and more I'm coming to believe that the only way PR will be passed is if someone runs a Trump style "the system is rigged" campaign in a moment when both the far left and Conservatives are feeling disaffected. They need to spew bullshit and dog whistle to both sides and whatever they do not mention the words proportional representation. Leave that buried in the platform details. But somehow also make it clear that fixing the system is their mandate and there will be no referendums.

I'm sad that our politics has come to this.

[–] Sunshine 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More conservatives need to come out against Pierre Poilievre and question why he has the power that he does. He acts like a dictator forcing every mp in his party to vote his way when they have obligations to their constituents and he attacks members of our community. Do we really want a Conservative Party with that corrupt weasel running it? He of course voted against advancing a citizen’s assembly, he is against the free market of conservative thought!

Pierre Poilievre does not deserve all the power in conservatism.

[–] ahal 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I agree with everything you said, but all parties are like that. Trudeau is just as bad. It's because that's what the system we have rewards. Parties that allow their MPs to vote as they please simply don't win the game of politics.

That's what we need to change.

[–] Grimpen 4 points 2 months ago

I think this whole discussion points out the opposition to PR or anything other than FPTP.

FPTP forced the Reform and PC to merge in order to stay competitive. It forces CPC MPs to toe the party line to stay in the party. It forces people to settle for LPC MPs if they don't want Conservatives (or NDP out west often).

Any move away from FPTP would allow smaller parties to be more successful, and at the very least that means the next Maxime Bernier will be able to be more successful as well.