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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The magic words worked because they were backed by the power of institutions that people trust.

The mistake this guy made - the mistake that the US Republicans are absolutely not making - is that he did not sufficiently erode public faith in those institutions first.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nor did he secure political and military alliences before hand. You can only stop coups by voting if it is a really shit coup lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

He actually did have the backing of a lot of the military top brass. The problem is that the rank and file wouldn't back the brass in clearly violating lawful orders from the government. A big part of why those soldiers sent into parliament did such a shit job is because they obviously weren't even sure they were supposed to be there.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"We hereby declare that 'we do not consent'!"

"My apologies, have a nice day!"

🙃

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

President trying to coup? Just say no, they cannot legally take over your government without your consent!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It honestly sounds too good to be true that you can be getting invaded by soldiers, and you can just say 'no' and they go away. That is the power of law.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's because people put resistance https://snyder.substack.com/p/dictators-for-a-day

Dictators will only succeed if people comply in advance.

Also a general strike started demanding him to step down.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Dictators will only succeed if people comply in advance.

This is important

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The thing about a coup is that when it fails nobody was ever part of the coup.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Counter-example: The Beer Hall Putsch

It was the "founding myth" of the German nazi party.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What is this referring to?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

On December 3, when President Yoon Suk Yeol of South Korea declared martial law, soldiers were deployed to the National Assembly, blocking access and creating chaos. Despite the military presence, some opposition politicians physically fought past soldiers and barricades to reach the emergency meeting. Their actions allowed an emergency session to take place, where 190 lawmakers voted unanimously to overturn the martial law order.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

That's not what put the nail in the coffin though, it was unions threatening a general strike that ended the order

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Thank you for the succinct explanation

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

South Korea the last 48 hours!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

So the beard is part of your reaction

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

South Korea is closing up to the North.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Their libs have maybe under 10 seats, even though capitalists try to claim they are. Doesn't seem like they had any power in this

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Liberalism is not the Liberal party. It's the marriage of capitalism and democracy that most countries have today.