Who are we?
We are digital librarians. Among us are represented the various reasons to keep data -- legal requirements, competitive requirements, uncertainty of permanence of cloud services, distaste for transmitting your data externally (e.g. government or corporate espionage), cultural and familial archivists, internet collapse preppers, and people who do it themselves so they're sure it's done right. Everyone has their reasons for curating the data they have decided to keep (either forever or For A Damn Long Time). Along the way we have sought out like-minded individuals to exchange strategies, war stories, and cautionary tales of failures.
We are one. We are legion. And we're trying really hard not to forget.
-- 5-4-3-2-1-bang from this thread
Just finished backing up my 33TiB to LTO4 Tapes. That's 8.8kg or 44 tapes. Still cheaper and longer shelf life then HDDs
You mean I could lose even more data when it inevitably craps out?
(don't mind me, I'm dealing with a failed RAID5 array with one disk dead and one dying, I need to vent)
For real, the only hard drives I’ve ever had fail on me were Seagates.
I’ve owned several hundreds of drives. No manufacturer is immune. It’s more about the drive model than anything. Enterprise disks are better. Each manufacturer has made crappy drives. Go for the nicer model of whomever you like, beat it to death in its first month. If it survives infant mortality it will last a long time.
We still have a Western Digital Caviar Black in our house that's still rocking and currently on 44k+ power on hours. We were expecting it to die a couple years ago but it didn't yet. Using it since 2009. This is the best one I've seen.
This is why we use RAID6 and not RAID5
I use 5 at home, after all it's for things I could just 'acquire' again if needed.
I mean if it's things you can go get again why not party hard and just use RAID0?
Im just kidding that's such a pain in the ass if anything breaks.
Aka “my RAID are the other seeders🥸”
It's not recklessness it's decentralized community based redundancy.
I paid for gigabit I'm gonna use the whole gigabit lol
😎2.5Gbit🇨🇭
Well that's cheating. Easy to brag about internet speeds when you live inside of a data center lol.
That reminds me of an article from a few years back of this old woman in I wanna say Switzerland as well that at the time had the "fastest internet in the world". She said she used it to look up gardening tips lol.
I hope she had a dope garden.
🙊sorry
I'd guess she was from Norway, they have a way bigger fibre network than us and since longer time. Here you don’t have fibre if you are too far from a bigger city, yet. But at least we get about 1Gbit from our copper.
Our government took 3 billion dollars of our tax money to bolster our Internet infrastructure.
That was like 12 years ago. The money just vanished and they went "oops". God I wish we had fiber everywhere.
I used to have fiber but now I'm on lowly copper gigabit lol
😎10Gbit🇯🇵
🤯
Hope you kept a good backup
nah my dude, we didn't (:
I inherited my predecessor's fuck-ups that are slowly revealing themselves
Damn sounds like the rebuild will be a nail biter! Hope it goes well, good luck and god speed. Toss in a couple hail Satan's too, you'll need all the help you can get
Didn't yeah hear, hail Hitler's back in vogue
This is why I love the md array in Unraid. If I was to lose 1 data drive and 2 parity drives at once (unlikely), I’d still only lose the data on the single failed data drive, not the entire array as the data isn’t striped across all drives.
Yes it’s a bit slower but it’s my media server so still plenty fast for that.
Can't wait to try these out in 7 years when all the datacener refurbs hit the second hand market
That's nice but prices haven't moved for more than 5 years.
My on the go music library 512 GB SanDisk MicroSD from 2 months ago had the same price as my first 16 GB SanDisk MicroSD I put in my HTC Wildfire S.
Has nothing to do with this, but every time someone mentions memory prices, I can’t help but think of this.
I paid over $100 for my first 128MB USB drive around 2002.
I can’t remember what I paid for my 40mb MFM hard drive in 1992. I kind of want to say it was around like $200. ?
The Wildfire S is more than 10 years old tho
But we do have a much better organized second hand market, so there's that. /s
This is funny because my last 3 drives have all been used. $/TB has definitely gone up since COVID for new drives.
used/refurb is perfect if you've got a raid setup and they have some sort of warranty. serverparts has 5 year warranty on most of their drives, and reasonably priced. upgraded to 4x 20TB last year when I upgraded my truenas and Plex server, haven't had issues.
2 for me, manufacturer refurbs, didn't say I disliked it, but as per OP, it sure would be nice if prices moved in the right direction.
Hard drives are the new tape drives it seems. Something most non-tech people thought was obsolete ages ago but are instead just going into a niche.
Seagate has been very hit n miss with me. I've had one of their drives last near a decade only for a newer model of the same drive to fail within 6 months.
What's generally considered more reliable brands for around the same price? preferably ones easy to grab in the UK.
Seagate has been very hit n miss with me. I've had one of their drives last near a decade only for a newer model of the same drive to fail within 6 months.
This is called anecdotal evidence and does not serve any purpose.
What's generally considered more reliable brands for around the same price? preferably ones easy to grab in the UK.
Get the best price/performance/capacity/warrenty drive from any of the 3 major brands and you are good.
Look up the backblaze drive analysis to get an idea.
Just in case you'd like to replace your drive every year
what?
The quality of their drives is kinda disappointing
disagree, but whatever