I'll be honest, this sounds interesting, but I have no idea what you're even trying to say.
Where does the $2700 price come from?
Does it support Linux or not?
Are you happy with it or not?
What's LKMS?
I'm really struggling to even parse the basics from your post.
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Lenovo artificially inflates the [M]SRP and has fake “sales” to make it seem like you’re getting a good deal. Never ever trust that.
As you discovered there is often one single person working on getting these devices compatible. As an example the OpenBSD team and others will sometimes suggest you donate a system in order for anything to happen. And even then there are no guarantees if blobs are involved.
This is a pretty big goof up but I’ve made the same mistake when the x200 first came out. I think you’re getting dragged because what people are curious about is what specifically isn’t working. I’m surprised it’s working at all but then again John is a beast.
This is true for tons of companies across the board
The fake sale, blobs, proprietary nonsense etc things? Can confirm I’ve seen others pull the same crap. For me Lenovo was the most blatant. But Dell came close. If you have other examples I’d like to see it.
Why didn't you buy a framework, or even a macbook and run asahi Linux on it?
Asahi is not suitable for daily driver yet afaik. But Framework is a good one.
A friend of mine bought an used M1 and Linux support is limited to this day. I just want to run Debian (stable).
Framework doesn't have (and still hasn't) an aarch64 CPU.
The benefits of an ARM-Linux based laptop for me are:
- Running my obiquitious OS (Debian).
- No fans and less heat on the lap (note that charging heats the battery which in turn heats the laptop. Though this is just 25 Minutes to charge up and this laptop [X13s] cools down very fast)
- battery life (I can safely assume 6 heavy hours of no-plugin vim, REPL and browsing).
You may come up with downsizes and I bet I can address these with easy workarounds to stay within my requirements.
I get all those stated benefits on my Framework 13 AMD, except my battery life is longer.
How? I barely get 6 hours of just browsing, and it can only suspend for a day.
Are you using power-profiles-daemon?
For Framework Laptop 13/16 AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series configurations, you will absolutely want to use power-profiles-daemon for the absolute best experience. Do NOT use TLP.
https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/optimizing-ubuntu-battery-life-Sye_48Lg3
Yes, I am. I also set both the power profile and epp to power save.
Are you using Mario's patched ppd by chance?
I'm using whatever comes prepackaged with NixOS unstable: services.power-profiles-daemon.enable = lib.mkDefault true;
Yeah; Told you I am disappointed in some way.
I assume the 2700 is SRP? Don't use SRP ever, it's total nonsense. It has in fact become such nonsense use of SRP in marketing/sales is actually illegal in the EU. Instead of it being an actual price point manufacturers intended for the product to be sold at, it's always always a factor of that. So shops could advertise with a 50% discount on SRP, to get at what is just the regular price and not even a good one at that. That was considered so misleading, SRP use is banned. Instead the marketing can only be based on actual lowest prices the product was for sale at.
You may chime in here: I purchased it with three years of support as well (they [Lenovo] exchanged my brickes speakers, btw).
More insights I gained using this laptop (intended for the curious Linux enthusiast):
- Kernel support for Audio and Screens is heavily dependend on user space: X.org and Wayland experience differs immensely. Even some udev-rules only work with certain compositors (and X11 feels like it is out of scope).
- Debian lacks people contributing to the linux and linux-firmware package. The onboarding is quite steep due to a lack of alignment between code and documentation.
- Developers if userspace programs react very fast to new requirements but they rely on upstreamed (to Debian's kernel-team) kernel-config's.
- Prompting bugs to the kernel appears to be done through kernel contributors only: Users will prompt hindrances on IRC (via OTFC, #aarch64-laptops) prompting the contributor and they will verify and support before addressing issues.
- There are archived advancements to the support which can't be merged due to citation reasons and alignment with upstream can't be done by the individual (there is a pareto-capable kernel for virtualization but within one week hunderts of commits need to get reviewed). This is impressive imo.
If it comes with Windows pre installed, that's a big red flag for me. Also there will be the cost of a license for it included in the cost that MS will pocket giving nothing in return.
I've never bought any of my laptops new because I can't wrap my head around how they justify those prices. $2700 for a laptop? I wouldn't pay $700 for a laptop, and I'm sure my PC is far more powerful than this laptop that I paid a fraction of the cost for.
OMG I figured it out. English isn't your first language. THAT'S why you don't make any sense what-so-ever in almost every one of your comments. You basically have a child's understanding of the language coupled with the belief that you have mastered the language.
Didn't Lenovo have some privacy issues, like a key logger or sum iirc? Kinda a vague memory but I remember that's why I didn't buy one.