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Mostly out of curiosity, but also somewhat related to Proton's recent political involvement, I'm curious about alternatives to using their services, open to suggestions for:

  • Proton Mail: anything that can support custom domain, email aliases, and email scheduling?
  • Proton Drive: not the most important, but interested in privacy first, encrypted hosting services
  • Proton Pass: anything I should take a look at besides Bitwarden and Keepass?
  • Proton VPN: that one's the hardest, it was really good, I think Mullvlad is the one most often recommended?
  • Proton Calendar: didn't really care about that one, but it was nice that it connected to Mail

My Unlimited plan renewed in December so I'll probably keep it for a year, it was nice having only one subsctiption to keep in mind, but I'm thinking of exploring other options

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I just moved to Proton before this while debacle and it definitely put me properly back on edge about who to trust in tech!

I'll probably stick with their email and calendar for now. (Though I'm curious what hosted calendars might be out there I could use alternatives for arranging events with friends.)

I had started on Keepass before, briefly tried Proton Pass, and now have completed moving to Keepass. I keep my database in my syncthing folder and have it on all my devices. With browser plug-ins and the KeepassDX app on Android, the experience is basically identical, except entirely private and self-hosted. A win all around, I'm real happy with this.

For VPN I'm using surfshark right now and haven't had any real issues. Not sure what the prevailing sentiment about them is though. I do sometimes find their endpoints blocked by various sites (catbox.moe is oddly very picky about this).

For drive, I'll probably end up getting a seedbox and a lot more hardrives in the near future anyway, so that'll be a problem/solution for me then.

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[–] ColdWater 0 points 1 day ago

Lucky me I didn't use any of their services, good luck to you for finding alternatives tho

[–] DebatableRaccoon 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Generally, I'd recommend having different services for everything anyway just for situations like this where if one's bad, you don't have to change everything else. Pick what services you really need the premium for and find free tiers that match your needs on others. For VPN, I still use PIA since their reputation is still holding up. I know you said you don't want to hear it but Bitwarden for password manager and for the rare time I need cloud storage, I use Mega since they offer 20GB on their free tier. Oh, and Disroot for email bit that doesn’t have everything you're looking for so I can't recommend it even if it's been great for my use case.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah that's something that hovered in my mind for a time, not putting all my eggs in the same basket

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

There was a recent post on [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

VPS with nextcloud et al

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (8 children)

He made one tweet

Then the company issues a statement

No more tweets or support

I mean, come on .. it's blown way out of water

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

As I mentioned in the post, this is mostly out of curiosity

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I agree.

They stumbled into a political mess, it was naive and foolish but it doesn't mean the whole of proton should be written off.

I'm not looking for an alternative. Although it is also good that people have other options to share and the freedom to move providers should they wish. I will still recommend Proton to people.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was thinking about subbing to Proton and researched a few other alternatives but ended up coming to the conclusion that it is kinda useless for me and most people. Unless the other person(s) you email are also using Proton or a similar service then you’re still compromised. I guess it makes sense for some people like journalists or politicians, but only if you know your peers are also using it. I ended up moving everything to iCloud which does most of what you’re looking for.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

disroot, or autistici, depending on your politics

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