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After creating a fresh installation of Ubuntu 24.04, I installed DEB Firefox from APT by following Mozilla's instructions from here. But I noticed that it was secretly replaced with Snap Firefox. I was able to verify this by checking the About Firefox page. This is the third time I noticed this.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah they've been doing that for a while

[–] Revan343 30 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I suggest Mint or straight Debian. I prefer Mint for anything graphical, Debian for headless

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What benifit does Mint have over Debian for anything graphical?

[–] Revan343 10 points 22 hours ago

I've just found it's more polished right out of the box. Definitely more new-user-friendly, like Ubuntu, but with Snap gutted out.

I have been using the regular Mint (based on Ubuntu), but I'm probably going to use the Debian edition next time I install a new system

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I battled that for about a year and then ditched Debian based diatros altogether.

OpenSUSE ftw

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

You could have gone pure Debian. There are no snap shenanigans over there :)

OpenSuse is also a great pick tho!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Welcome to 2020, where Debian is once again your trusted distro.

[–] caseyweederman 2 points 3 hours ago

Always was.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Not a secret, but annoying as hell. I usually replace it with a Flatpak and uninstall Snap.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah it's not really a secret

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (15 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I've had it happen too. In fact it is what prompted me to move away from Kubuntu.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. They also did this with Docker, and it broke my setup (and was a bitch to debug).

This was a couple of years ago, and I haven't used Ubuntu unless absolutely necessary (and then usually in a container).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Docker in a snap is too meta for me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

Just wait for snap 2.0 which actually runs everything inside docker containers /s

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 day ago (6 children)

They started doing that in a couple of years back. Saw quite a bit of backlash in the Linux news media at the time.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes. That was the last straw for me. I switched to debian stable, and haven't looked back since

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago

It is one of the reasons many people turn away from Ubuntu.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Solve the problem. Drop ubunutu

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Definitely not you, they absolutely do this with snaps and have for a while. This was the main reason I stopped using Ubuntu.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (13 children)

This is why i switched to Debian. It's 99% of Ubuntu, without the crap.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (9 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But it's not obvious either. When I say 'apt install firefox', specially after adding their repository to sources.list, I'd expect to get a .deb from mozilla. Silently overriding my commands rubs me in a very wrong way.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (16 children)

At this point, why is anyone using Ubuntu for desktop? You have soooo many options

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

Jesus Christ this is Windows-tier insane computing behaviour from Ubuntu. Fuck Ubuntu.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wasn’t that one of the main critiques of snap/ubuntu/canonical a few years ago already?

Among my personal dislike for its shade of purple, that has been my primary reason to not recommend ubuntu for a while, at least.

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