This proposal includes earning up to UAH 1 million (around US$24,000) within a year of service in the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), along with opportunities for free education and preferential housing loans.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's more than what I get here in the West. Good on them, they deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hard to enjoy when you're dead though..

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But if russia wins, they're all dead anyway, so I'd rather die on my feet on a battlefield than in my basement while some ork shoots me in the face

[+] [email protected] -6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well.. yes and no. Sure you can be brave while being out there outside the military draft, but here in Ukraine, whether you are fit for war or not, healthy enough for war or not, whether you want it or not, whether you are more useful outside of the trenches or not, you will be sought out and drafted. Taken by force just outside your house while walking your dog. Without any questions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You have a source on this? That sounds like russia...not Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The source is me. I'm from Kyiv, Ukraine. I have not been drafted yet because I haven't left my apartment for three months already. The nearest military drafters' hunting post is ~100 meters from my house. They use civil vehicles to jump out of and grab men in surprise. Foreign help is not enough to cover the overwhelming enemy force with weapons, not men.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It sounds hard to believe but I also know that this would most likely not be communicated over pro-Ukrainian channels if true.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Understandably, these things are not being cried out publicly, but this is the rough reality of being outnumbered. Don't think I'm some kind of anti-government opposition guy who's waiting for russia to come. No, not at all. I gave all my life savings to my country as government military bonds and if we lose I lose everything I own. And my life, of course :D But yeah, there's no way to be saved from the military draft except by bribe. Alas, I even know how much for each drafting stage.