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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get the reasoning behind the photographer having the rights to photos, but it just doesn't sit right that the human subject of those photos has no rights at all.

[–] SpaceCowboy 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the subject does have some rights though. I'm not a fancy law talking guy, but I'm pretty sure you can sue someone for using your likeness without permission. But it's a bit dependent on the circumstances, a famous person can't sue a paparazzi for taking their photo in a public place, but I think they can when there's an expectation of privacy. You see people's face blurred on TV shows unless they sign a waiver. If been walking around where they're shooting a movie they put up signs letting you know that's happening and warning that you might potentially be in the background of a shot.

It's just there's more laws protecting the the people using the camera since big companies will use any loopholes to screw them out of money.

Though in this case I think the photographer is being an asshole. If Ozzy was using the photos for an album cover which he'd make a lot of money from, then the photographer deserves to get paid. But if he's just posting some old photos of himself with his friends, then the photographer needs to chill.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

"The lawsuit alleges that Zlozower and his reps reached out to Ozzy about the photos multiple times last year, but never received a response. "

Odds are Ozzy doesn't know why he just entered a room never mind why some guy is sending a notice about some photos.

[–] ImplyingImplications 169 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Oh it's photos of Ozzy taken by a professional photographer that were posted without the photographer's permission.

[–] SpaceCowboy 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah and if Ozzy were using them in a professional context (like for an album cover) then the professional photographer should be compensated.

But if he's he's just posting some photos of himself with his friends online, then it's a big nothing burger and the photographer should be a professional about it and consider it as fair use. Whether it fits the legal definition of fair use will need to be decided in court, but a real professional wouldn't consider it worth the time and loss of trust with other customers to pursue it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, photos whose only value lies in the fame of the subject. I think people deserve some form of rights to images of themselves, since they created that value by doing whatever made them worth photographing. Our legal system should acknowledge that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And yet they hired that photographer specifically because not every photographer is the same. The value is in both the photography and the subject and ps our legal system does. This sounds like a contract dispute.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Unless you make a different contract, a photographer has all rights to all photos they take of anyone, whether they were hired or not. I'm not talking about Ozzie's problem, I'm talking about how the law works in general.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It has always seemed very weird to me that people have absolutely no legal claim on their own faces. As long as you're in public anyone who takes photos of you has complete ownership and control over the images. Even if the images only have value because the subject is famous, they're treated as if their value was created solely by the photographer. There's something innately wrong with that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

laughs in GDPR

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

It's even worse in the case of cosplayers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Funniest thing I ever saw on "reality" TV was the food fight the Osbournes had with their noisy neighbors in the middle of the night

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bruh I'm a nobody and even i make sure to get permission from photographers to post their photos of me. lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (7 children)

There is a difference between you going to a photographer asking him to take photos of you and a paparazzi taking a photo of you in a public setting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You're being obtuse. You're talking about a hired photographer and arguably one of the most famous hired rock photographers of all time, he did their tour and album covers you incredible bafoon.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Ozzy Osbourne is still alive?! ...we need an autopsy crew to just start following him around 24/7. Whatever trial-of-the-grass shit all those drugs did to his body, there's some Witcher level mutagens going on here that we would do well to investigate when he finally does die.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes and he has a podcast too. That's how I found out that the entire Osborne family are Trump supporters. Fuck Ozzy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Huh... honestly didn't know anything about Ozzy other than he's a drug cocktail and his voice is squeaky (always mildly annoyed when Black Sabbath comes on). That's disappointing. Yeah, fuck Ozzy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, Black Sabbath is doing a huge show soon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

??? they had 2 tours that were supposed to be "the last one" already

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're doing a one time festival for charity, inviting Metallica, Slayer, Pantera, Gojira, Alice In Chains, Mastodon and many more.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/concerts/back-to-the-beginning/

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Keith Richards and Steve Tyler have joined the chat.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

" 'sleeping like this will add 10 years to your life. I learned that from Ozzy Osbourne. Perhaps it is the reason that he cannot be harmed by natural weapons...'

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So who owns the rights to yourself the photographer or yourself?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

“The accounts are key components of the defendant’s popular and lucrative commercial enterprise,” Zlozower’s lawsuit states. “Defendant has over 12 million followers on [Facebook], and over 6 million followers on [Instagram], and over 5 million followers on [X] — all of which are monetized and provide significant financial benefits to the defendant.”

Among the images are some of Ozzy standing with Zakk Wylde and hugging the late Randy Rhoads, who died in 1982.

What an unbelievable shit-heel.

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