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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So, let me clarify, you could've wished for a proper communism without state and such bullshit, but wished for an autocracy with ambitions of world domination to be undissolved? Great job here, mate!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Idk, I think it would be a net positive for the world. As the dissolution brought a few bad things with it, like child prostitution, alcoholism on an international scale, drug abuse, corruption on a never seen before scale, and just in general things became a tiny bit worse for an average person. If anything, we do have an autocracy with ambitions of world domination brewing (ie Russia) as a direct result of the illegal dissolution. In all honesty, would be better to wish that the liberal economics reforms were never adopted, that ideally would keep things at bay.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fair enough; although, I meant more of a communism on a world scale, with rewiring the brains of those selfish bastards that actively oppose it for their benefit, and all that jazz. So, pretty much the thing a genie's help (or something equally unbelievable) is necessary atm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Hey they have three more wishes, give them a second

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (29 children)

The Soviet Union was working towards Communism, if it wasn't dissolved then Humanity as a whole would be a lot farther along in the transition to Communism globally. The Soviet Union was not an "autocracy," nor did it have "ambitions of world domination." Such claims come from Red Scare nonsense.

I recommend you read Blackshirts and Reds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure it wasn't. And, say, attempts to limit citizens' freedoms of [speeh, movement, religion (although I personally think it's cancer)] or even music they listen to are just a coincidence. Look, I'm not saying USSR was all bad, but, frankly speaking, trying to depict it as some kind of heaven on earth is just as flawed as the red scare you've mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Don't know what you're trying to say with "it wasn't," it was absolutely a Socialist state working towards Communism. I never said it was heaven on Earth either, in fact I linked a critique of the USSR from a Marxist perspective that doesn't dogmatically reject or uphold it. The USSR was real Socialism, that doesn't mean it was heaven or hell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've asked a couple of history nerds, and I stand corrected: my impression that totalitarianism was a form of autocracy was wrong (rather both are a form of dictatorship). They've mentioned that under Stalin it could've been considered one, tho, but given he was the 2nd gensec, it's not exactly relevant to undissolving.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I don't really know what you're trying to get at with totalitarianism or autocracy, neither is a particularly useful descriptor for the USSR. The perhaps mundane fact is that the USSR was neither heaven nor hell, it was merely real, and history's first Socialist state. Trying to analyze it from a moralistic point of view with baked-in desires for it to either have been a success or a failure just obscure the historical reality of it.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

In my case, it would be that

  1. Stalin lived for a few more years
  2. A leftist front would get elected to form the central govt in India
  3. Land and Education reform happens in all states, while ensuring that superstition is reduced and the consitutional duty of developing Scientific temper is given a bit more focus
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

The world certainly would be a much better place now if the Soviet Union had persisted, rather than having millions die due to the reintroduction of Capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Idk personally I think the military shouldnt have staged an illegal coup

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