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We have to agree where we ARE before we stand a chance to agree about what we do from here.
The time for solidarity has passed and this bullshit "sowwy" crap some cons are trying to put out there is disingenuous at best. No, will fix everything again and y'all will get the benefit again then go right back to being shitty Republicans again. Fuck all conservatives.
Geez. The being lied to wasn't really very secretive, it was out in the open for a very long time.
This is a very weird apology for just being stupid.
They weren't lied to by the right. They were lied to by themselves.
Themselves are the problem and one cannot not remove one from the other.
Those themselves will never be our allies. They will slink right back to their comforting lies at the first convenient moment, betray us, and laugh about it.
Wow this thread is kinda fucked. Im way more left than most to the point that i think supporting biden/harris leading up to the last election was a mistake, although i would've begrudgingly voted harris when it came down to it. But this is just vindictive and unproductive. How about "lets both admit the corporations and their stooges have fucked us for way too long and come together to stop them" rather than some stupid childish finger pointing shit. Like i get the rage, but keep it pointing at the ones who are actively fucking you over.
It’s unproductive to try working with people who, for the past few decades, were actively voting to get rid of my friends and family because they didn’t fit White Heteronormative Christian Right America’s box.
They put all of their faith into Trump. They literally believed God sent him to save America from the Democrats and liberals trying to “destroy” this country.
I’m sorry, but I do not want to put my trust in the hands of racist bigots who can easily be lead astray by their own greed and prejudices.
The ones who are actively fucking me over are the ones that keep supporting the ones that are also actively fucking me over. Accountability doesn't end at the ballot.
So we agree that the ones fucking you over are the billionaires bankrolling the fire hose of toxic media that gets people to vote against their interest?
Genuinely not sure of the stance you're taking...
Yeah yeah. We already get that "both sides bad" argument. You're clearly ignoring that the Republicans are actively destroying our government, our rights, and our access to necessary infrastructure and services while giving even more power to corporations. One is orders of magnitude worse. So trying to equate the two parties is insultingly misleading.
But I low key do want them to admit that they were wrong. Because many people told them a million times and they went 🙉
We have to agree where we ARE before we stand a chance to agree about what we do from here.
We don't do that with self-delusion and deflecting blame though.
The blame doesn't rest solely on conservatives for this current situation, sure. Some of it falls on the huge number of people who "protest voted". Some of it rests on the Democratic party for pretending to be the party of the people, but really just being a milquetoast center-right corporatist party that serves the same masters as the Republican party.
For any of us to "come together" and "agree about what we are to do from here," for any one group to trust the other, we all have to come to terms with and accept our share of the blame. Deflecting blame or deluding ourselves with rhetoric like "we didn't do anything wrong, we were just lied to" is unproductive. No side will trust the other as long as anyone is still making excuses for themselves.
Be adults, look inward instead of projecting blame, accept responsibility for your actions, and then maybe we can come together to fight against fascism.