Great! So I'll have to pay way less income tax next year, right?
... right?
this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2025
193 points (97.1% liked)
News
25462 readers
4830 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Yes*!
*As long as you make $400k or more.
Not exactly. Since we have a tiered tax system, you'll pay more on every dollar UP TO a certain bracket, and less on every dollar OVER that limit if I understand it correctly
No. You pay a lower percentage in lower brackets. Most people don't make it to the higher ones. A 1% difference in a normal tax bracket might mean a difference of a few thousand dollars in taxes. At high levels of wealth, 1% of millions is a shitload of savings, which is why it's always pointed out that the wealthy disproportionately receive most of the benefits of tax cuts. There is no reason it has to be like this, their benefit could be capped at a hard dollar amount.
Tax brackets are also not connected. A common misconception is that when you go over a bracket limit into the next one suddenly all your income is taxed at that rate. This is incorrect. Your tax rate changed for each amount in that bracket and nothing above or below it, referred to as "marginal". If the first tax bracket has a 0% tax rate and 2nd tax bracket has a rate of 5% starts at $10,000 and your income is $12,000, you don't pay taxes of 5% of $12,000, you pay 0% for $10k and 5% of $2k.
One of the other major problems is that in the last 40 years the fusion of corporate power and political party purchase by lobby and corruption has us currently with some of the lowest maximum tax rates in history. Just 5 or 6 decades ago, normal tax rates were 50+% on the ultra wealthy. They're now 37 and will be cut further. The super wealthy don't even have regular "income" but earn from investments and may only pay 15% tax rate as they've lobbied for this exception. Their rate of 15% is of course before all the loopholes and lack of IRS staffing to enforce tax law, which disproportionately benefits the very wealthy.
That's your US tax primer 101.
Thanks for the write up! I guess I took for granted what I knew and need to read further into this change. Appreciate you taking your time to educate us all.
You will see relative pittance for lower tax brackets, millions and billions for the wealthy. What's worse, critical services that will be cut to find these tax cuts, and then what will come next. They will cut Medicare, raise the social security age which is a benefit cut all to give just that much more to the ultra wealthy.
The land of opportunity for those who steal it.
I really can't fucking cope with the amount of greed. They already have so close to everything. When is it enough?
It's easier to justify murder every single day.
Do you have any good resources where I can learn more about this with a visual element? Videos or charts or something.
Thanks for the writeup as well, your ability to explain something complex but concisely is rad. Keep being you
It was this
So if you look at it and say "I'm single and make 37,500 dollars a year", you can break it down like so
$11,925 gets taxes at 10% (1,192.5) Leaving the last 25,525 you made taxed at 12%. (3,069). So you would pay a total of $4261.50 in taxes that year.
Then deductions come in. Those pertain to dependents, donations etc. for the most part, if you make that little of money, donations won't matter, deductions pertaining to purchasing a house, or car might though. Kids (dependents) I believe are around $1700. So say you have 2 kids and only made the above. You would only pay $861 (4261-1700*2). Now everyone fills out an I9 when they take a standard job that pays on a W2 form at the end of the year. The I9 depicts how much money is taken out of every paycheck to mitigate costs at the end of the year. You can tell it to take more or less adjusting for how many dependents and so on. So say you didn't put dependents on it, it may have taken all 4261.50 out over the course of the year, and you had 2 kids so at the end of the year you paid too much, so you would get a $3,400 return and be happy because the "government paid you money!". It was your money, you still paid them $861, but they were holding your other 3,400 dollars because how you filled out your I9.
Now if you work as a contractor, you may get paid on not a W2 form but a 1099, which you will not fill out an I9 form at all for and at the end of the year when you filled out your taxes your be upset because you have to pay $861! The good news there though was that you had access to the 3,400 of your money and could invest it in stocks or pizza. Let's be honest, no matter how much people complain about Arby's, when your in a rush, a roast beef and cheddar sandwich and a fish and cheddar sandwich for 6.99 do be nice. Arby's, they have the meats.
This advertisement was not a paid spokesperson, just someone who hasn't eaten recently.
And they're planning on passing it in the Senate with Budget Reconciliation so the Filibuster won't stop it.
I hate our government. We are not a democracy but a republican run country were democrats get to play house, sometimes.
Only when they feel like it. I don't think the Democrats wanted the Oval office after Obama cuz they didn't know how to follow that. Hillary certainly wasn't the right play. Feels like they are losing on purpose at this point.
Bernie was the correct action and I believe AOC will next.
I mean Bernie definitely was, but the party made it pretty clear what they think of progressive platforms by how they treated him and how they played to the center last election.
Harris thought the middle was the finish line. Never seen anyone run so fast from the base.
Time to filibuster into a shutdown, things are about to reach the near bottom for the USA.
“But that would be mean!” - Chuck Schumer, probably
Fun Fact, the House actually passed this bill 217 to 215 with only a single Republican voting against, meaning if every Dem had also been present and voted against it (one absence) still would have passed by the bare minimum number of votes. This also opens up the possibility of Republicans bypassing filibuster with reconciliation.
So what you’re saying is we’re boned?
No no, god no.
I said that shit back during the elections when composite polling predicted the Trump and GOP victory. If I kept saying it now I'd be a broken record.
Jokes aside, the GOP are clearly afraid of people learning they are cutting medicaid, so theres always a bit of pressure to put on.
the GOP are clearly afraid of people learning they are cutting medicaid
They didn't seem afraid when they passed this garbage in the House.
They're denying it, at least for now, but yeah.
they always allow 1-2 republicans to vote against it only if they are in the safe majority.
They're trying to do something called budget reconciliation (I'm not sure exactly what that is) to avoid getting filibustered.
Cuts to Medicare and 3 trillion to the national debt to boot. So fiscal. So responsibility.
"Look what the Democrats did!" - Republicans
Just want to say thanks for the pay paywall bypass
While cranking up the cost of imports for consumers