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Update: After this article was published, Bluesky restored Kabas' post and told 404 Media the following: "This was a case of our moderators applying the policy for non-consensual AI content strictly. After re-evaluating the newsworthy context, the moderation team is reinstating those posts."

Bluesky deleted a viral, AI-generated protest video in which Donald Trump is sucking on Elon Musk’s toes because its moderators said it was “non-consensual explicit material.” The video was broadcast on televisions inside the office Housing and Urban Development earlier this week, and quickly went viral on Bluesky and Twitter.

Independent journalist Marisa Kabas obtained a video from a government employee and posted it on Bluesky, where it went viral. Tuesday night, Bluesky moderators deleted the video because they said it was “non-consensual explicit material.”

Other Bluesky users said that versions of the video they uploaded were also deleted, though it is still possible to find the video on the platform.

Technically speaking, the AI video of Trump sucking Musk’s toes, which had the words “LONG LIVE THE REAL KING” shown on top of it, is a nonconsensual AI-generated video, because Trump and Musk did not agree to it. But social media platform content moderation policies have always had carve outs that allow for the criticism of powerful people, especially the world’s richest man and the literal president of the United States.

For example, we once obtained Facebook’s internal rules about sexual content for content moderators, which included broad carveouts to allow for sexual content that criticized public figures and politicians. The First Amendment, which does not apply to social media companies but is relevant considering that Bluesky told Kabas she could not use the platform to “break the law,” has essentially unlimited protection for criticizing public figures in the way this video is doing.

Content moderation has been one of Bluesky’s growing pains over the last few months. The platform has millions of users but only a few dozen employees, meaning that perfect content moderation is impossible, and a lot of it necessarily needs to be automated. This is going to lead to mistakes. But the video Kabas posted was one of the most popular posts on the platform earlier this week and resulted in a national conversation about the protest. Deleting it—whether accidentally or because its moderation rules are so strict as to not allow for this type of reporting on a protest against the President of the United States—is a problem.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 14 hours ago

Here's my take on it:

  • I don't care about AI being used on public figures, if you won't want people to use you, don't be in public, or ruin the government. No one has made AI featuring me.
  • This is no different than a political cartoon, the only difference is no one made it directly by hand.
  • Bluesky doesn't have to host it, but I also would want it applied equally. If this was perma-removed, all AI or all political shit would be. I don't like it, but selective moderating is what got us Trump in the first place with Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit.
  • I don't like queerphobic shit being used to call out Trump and Musk. Use their actual actions and words, not "haha they gay". It's just wild how certain kinds of informal bigtry are okay when you use them on people who are evil. Like the people who constantly insult Trump's weight because he's evil. Maybe he's just evil and happens to be fat.
  • And let's not pretend Jack Dorsey is somehow a saint when he only removed Trump from twitter after Jan 6. Nothing before despite how horrid Trump was. I credit Jack Dorsey to enabling Trump, and it's why I refuse to join "Twitter 2 made by the guy who enabled Twitter to be the shit place it was".
[–] [email protected] 21 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I'm not here to discuss how we need to be ethical in response to a fascist takeover. So we gotta play by the rules but they don't?

[–] WorkshopBubby 4 points 13 hours ago

exactly, we should drop this approach of taking the high road, until they are gone

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I made account on bluesky to post drawings and no seeing AI slop. I hate Elon Musk, but I don't consider seeing AI generated lemon party as funny thing. It's one of the reason why I don't use Twitter anymore. I think AI is tool for disinformation.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago

This is no different than a really well drawn political cartoon.

Politicians shouldn't have the power to control the kinds of things you say about politicians.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 20 hours ago (18 children)

I seem to be in the minority here, but I am extremely uncomfortable the idea of non-consensual AI porn of anyone. Even people I despise. It’s so unethical that it just disgusts me. I understand why there are exceptions for those in positions of power, but I’d be more than happy to live in a world where there weren’t.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

porn

Oh, saving the children are you.

Its a picture of trump sucking elons toes. Conflating that with the idea of "porn" is a bit of an overreach in light of how rare toe fetish people are. I imagine you can find a tiny popyulation of people who consider anything erotic. Wearing cotton. Having a roastbeef sandwhich in your hand. Styling hair a certain way. Being an asian female.

Want to ban all of that too?

[–] Adderbox76 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you.

However...there's an argument to be made that the post itself is a form of criticism and falls under the free speech rules where it regards political figures. In many ways, it's not any different than the drawings of Musk holding Trump's puppet strings, or Putin and Trump riding a horse together. One is drawn and the other is animated, but they're the same basic concept.

I understand however that that sets a disturbing precedent for what can and cannot be acceptable. But I don't know where to draw that line. I just know that it has to be drawn somewhere.

I think...and this is my opinion...political figures are fair game for this, while there should be protections in place for private citizens, since political figures by their very ambition put themselves in the public sphere whereas private individuals do not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

In my opinion, public figures, including celebrities, give a degree of consent implicitly by seeking to be public figures. I dont think that for celebrities that should extend to lewd or objectionable material, but if your behavior has been to seek being a public figure you can't be upset when people use your likeness in various ways.

For politicians, I would default to "literally everything is protected free speech", with exceptions relating to things that are definitively false, damaging and unrelated to their public work.
"I have a picture of Elon musk engaging in pedophillia" is all those, and would be justifiably removed. Anything short of that though should be permitted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

I think the important point in this case is not that the content is acceptable, but that it is newsworthy.

If somebody made the video and posted it, I could see it being permanently taken down. And it was at first, per the letter of their policy.

But the fact that government employees had it playing on government property inside government facilities, to protest some extreme and historical stuff going on, means it should be recorded for the public and for history.

I look at it much the same way as the photos of upside down American flags that various government employees put up. Just posting an upside down flag and saying how America is wrong is an opinion like any other that would get lost in the noise. But when it’s people inside the government intending it as a sign of distress, very much more newsworthy and important to record.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Oh no think of the children. Poooooooorn

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Where do you draw the line for the rich fucks of the world? Realistic CGI? Realistic drawings? Edited photos?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is what I was thinking about myself. Because we're cool with political caricatures, right?

I guess the problem is that nobody wants to feature in non-consensual AI porn. I mean if you'd want to draw me getting shafted by Musk, that'd be weird, but a highly realistic video of the same event, that would be hard to explain to the missus.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago

Correct. this is indeed the correct decision to remove the thing. BUT i have a feeling that this quick reaction does not compare to the speed of decision for normal people, especially women who get this kind of stuff made about them.

Also, note that I'm not saying it was bad to make the video, or have it run in public on hacked screens.
That is perfectly fine political commentary, by means of civil disobedience.

Just that Bluesky is correct in it's action to remove it from their service.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

please stop being weird and gross

also please no more 'look bad person do gay' content

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I hate Musk and Trump for lots of things. I don't think using "haha they might be kissing each other! Musk sucks Trumps dick!" is somehow effective criticism of actual fascists in office.

Maybe we can criticize and protest and organize without using shit rooted in queerphobia. Might as well just say "Well Trump probably cross dresses, that shows him!"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I don’t think using “haha they might be kissing each other! Musk sucks Trumps dick!” is somehow effective criticism of actual fascists in office.

It is, for them.

Especially having Trump be "the bottom".

Ever watch Shameless, the US version? Its along the same lines as Terry, Mickey's dad. He only hated Mickey because he was catching, because "It aint gay if you're doing the fucking, just if you get fucked".

So, in this case, yes, making implications of gay sex happening, with Trump catching, is VERY effective at it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It is, for them.

Fucking crazy you think this is making them sweat at all

all you're doing is giving them completely valid ammo that liberal 'virtue signaling' is completely hollow because look at your hypocritical behavior

not to mention telling all the queers you snarl at every 2-4 years to vote for you exactly how you feel about them

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[–] WorkshopBubby 2 points 13 hours ago

it's #darkwoke, the only people who are offended by this are the Nazi's, and that is exactly who we should be offending

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You needlessly choose to take offence. It shows who is sub and who dom. It doesn't matter, except to you it seems, what sex they have

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You needlessly choose to take offence

KKK

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

No, they literally make a choice to make it about being gay and I honestly don't think that many people even thought about that aspect. I don't even know that they aren't gay for all I know, I don't care.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Amazed people saying it is correct decision! This is two public figures and doing art or any form of expression material with their image should be protected under freedom of speech.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

I don't believe Bluesky is a part of the government. Legally, they are allowed to censor as they please on their own platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

I'm confused as to why this 404media story neglected to link to the post in question.

to get from this article to the post that it is about, i had to type in the bsky username from the screenshot and scroll through the timeline. to save others the effort:

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3liwlwvvq6k2s is the post which was removed.

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lj3yrzc6is2p is the thread about it being removed and later restored.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Why is it "very very stupid"?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bluesky will become just the same az elonx...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

It's been restored after the article published. Moderators removed it as it being "Non-consensual" due to their rules, which they were right to follow....but the exception is that this is "news-worthy" which I agree with.

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[–] [email protected] 280 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (33 children)

I guess I get it. They would not like to set precedent to allow non-consensual AI generated porn on the platform. Seems reasonable. That said, fuck Donny. The video is hilarious. It’s fine if Bluesky doesn’t host it though.

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