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Anyone have thoughts on pros/cons?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This has been recommended multiple times by multiple different enquiries etc, it's about time someone actually got it done.

Putting it to a referendum, and the additional checks and balances, sound like some very reasonable extra precautions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but we don't govern by what the experts say. We govern by what the current party thinks their base wants. It is all based on feeling and not knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To a point, but this time we are actually doing what the experts advise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not necessarily.....the public could still torpedo this!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's the joy of a democracy, the people get what they want, even if it's a terrible idea.

Although this does have a lot of public support, so I think it will pass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why is 4 better than 3. Why not 5 or 6 or 10?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Personally not a fan of the idea. The carrot of the current approach of a 2x3 year term, where they only get the extra 3 years if they have done enough for a mellowpuff is a good check.

/edit - having said that a 2020 poll said that 61% were in favour so there you go.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

It kinda feels like we're perpetually either having an election, or just had an election at the moment. I'm kinda over it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I am generally a fan because it does allow for less time and money spent on elections but I do see the value in a shorter term. I don't quite get the whole thing about having 3 year terms if the select committee isn't set up a certain way though. Very confusing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This lowers the opportunity cost of having elections and gives a government more capability for implementing stuff and seeing a result within the same term.

It's a good thing IMHO. But no longer than four years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I'd rather have laws have protections than four year terms. When the law is written there should be specified language saying it can't be repealed until after X is measured and found to be not compliant with expected outcomes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think I would rather a mechanism to allow longer term projects and policies, without needing to worry so much about the incoming government cancelling or repealing them.

Even a one-term grace period might be sufficient.

But, probably rife with problems Ive not considered.