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The villa is stunning. The private swimming pool; the lush, landscaped terrace with firepit; the long dining table with its expansive balcony view; the pingpong table; the piano. But the jewel in the crown, according to the Airbnb listing, is the experience of watching the sun rise over the nearby mountains from the luxury of the generous master bedroom.

The villa with views of the Judean mountains is in a settlement located on land seized from Palestinians and considered illegal under international humanitarian law. Only a handful of Palestinians are allowed to enter this, and other, Israeli settlements in the West Bank, usually as labourers with special permits.

Exclusive analysis carried out by the Guardian found 760 rooms being advertised in hotels, apartments and other holiday rentals in illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, on two of the world’s most popular tourism websites.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

AirBnb has gone so hard into gentrifying areas that it is now literally genocide.

I tried telling people who were buying homes just to AirBnB them 15 years ago that what they were doing could only possibly lead to a massive rise of income disparity, and thus suffering.

The liberals would give some kind of self pitying, dodge response about how sad it is, but that's the only way they can get ahead.

At least the conservatives were more straightforward: 'Do you think I care?'

Landlord lives don't matter.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If the issue is stolen land, then shouldn't we be boycotting these platforms until they are out of non-native USA and Canada? Doesn't that make up thousands of times more of their business?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Land disputes tend to end when an agreement is reached between natives and colonizers or the colonizers murder so many natives that there are no people to claim the land of their ancestors.

America and Canada mostly fall in the second category. The natives have struck a peace deal and gained reservations but instead of demanding all the land back they are (rightfully) asking for financial compensation.

What differs it from Palestine is that Israel is actively doing the ethnic cleansing and genocide in the present. And there is no peace treaty made which the Palestinians have accepted.

Unless Palestinians agree to a deal they have the right over all the land back. From the river to the sea.

In the present Palestinians are willing to agree to a deal favorable to Israel to end their suffering. Because Israel has the military advantage.

However Israel does not accept it believing they can steal more land. They will lose everything as soon as their military advantage ends.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would you also ask airbnb to delist homes in East Jerusalem owned by Palestinian Israelis? Or is it only Jewish Israelis that should be boycotted?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only the colonists naturally.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

I love how they stopped prodding once you got straight to the point and they didn't know what to say.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

then shouldn't we be boycotting these platforms until they are out of non-native USA and Canada?

I mean if Native Americans launch a credible land return movement and ask for it then sure yeah. Right now that's not the frontline of the Native rights movement, so you'll need to find another whatabout (whataboutist???) argument.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not every comparison is whataboutism. This looks like more "Israel Bad" virtue signaling than it does helping Palestinians.

I do think maybe it's a good idea to think about how we treat similar situations before we decide that a company should not do business with a particular ethnicity in an area.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I do think maybe it's a good idea to think about how we treat similar situations before we decide that a company should not do business with a particular ethnicity in an area.

Right wing (but not far-right) genocide defenders speak in vagueries because what they say is not compatible with the truth. It is pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not every comparison is whataboutism.

This particular comparison is one Zionists love to make to discredit the Palestinian cause, though, so I tend to view it with suspicion. That said, with the assumption that you're talking in good faith I'll try to address your point.

This looks like more "Israel Bad" virtue signaling than it does helping Palestinians.

Boycotting settlements is one way to either strongarm the Israeli government into not expanding settlements (which make no mistake are built with their blessing) or disincentivise their expansion by making it economically disadvantageous. To quote the article:

Critics say that doing business in these areas normalises and provides revenue for these settlements. Support which has landed Airbnb on the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement's list of international companies complicit with Israeli violations of Palestinian rights.

Another quote:

Sari Bashi, programme director at Human Rights Watch, said that, in allowing properties in Israeli settlements to be listed on their sites, “Airbnb and Booking.com are contributing to land grabs, crippling movement restrictions and even the forced displacement of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, abuses that Israeli authorities commit in order to maintain oppression and domination over Palestinians as part of the crime against humanity of apartheid”.

This isn't virtue signaling; it's one of the few things someone in a Western country can do to help the Palestinian cause without getting into direct action. And how do you know it works? Because Zionists fucking hate it.

Like I said before, if a large number of Native Americans launched a credible campaign (as in one with specific, achievable goals like "we want X land for Y reservation"), they'd also be well within their rights to call for a boycott on that land until their demands are fulfilled and at least I personally would support that boycott. The logic in your comparison works, but not in the way you're implying.

Edit: Aaand no reply.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For anyone wondering, yes the BDS Movement is having an impact. If anyone wants to join, the No Thanks App (created by a Palestinian developer) Apple / Android makes it as easy as a quick search or barcode scan

Affirming the role the BDS movement has played in the Israeli economy’s “spiral of collapse,” as 130 leading Israeli economists describe it, in September, the Chairman of the Israeli Export Institute said: “BDS and boycotts have changed Israel’s global trade landscape.” He added, “Economic boycotts and BDS organizations present major challenges, and in some countries, we are forced to operate under the radar.” Israel’s projected annual GDP growth rate for 2024 is 0%, according to leading credit rating agency S&P, and some 60,000 Israeli businesses are projected to have shut down during this year of ongoing genocide.

https://bdsmovement.net/Indicators-BDS-Global-Impact-July-December-2024

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If some dev could get that app to F-Droid would be great

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

You can still find it on apkpure or something like that for those that want to avoid the app store

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Well yes, if you can afford to boycott airbnb clearly you could do so.

And AirBnB is all around the world so I'm sure there is plenty of illegal things to rent on Airbnb. They just look the other way.