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[–] [email protected] 26 points 22 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

It's really called Wanx?

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (25 children)

First off, I am sex positive, pro porn, pro sex work, and don't believe sex work should be shameful, and that there is nothing wrong about buying intimacy from a willing seller.

That said. The current state of the industry and the conditions for many professionals raises serious ethical issues. Coercion being the biggest issue.

I am torn about AI porn. On one hand it can produce porn without suffering, on the other hand it might be trained on other peoples work and take peoples jobs.

I think another major point to consider going forward is if it is problematic if people can generate all sorts of illegal stuff. If it is AI generated it is a victimless crime, so should it be illegal? I personally feel uncomfortable with the thought of several things being legal, but I can't logically argue for it being illegal without a victim.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (20 children)

I think another major point to consider going forward is if it is problematic if people can generate all sorts of illegal stuff. If it is AI generated it is a victimless crime, so should it be illegal? I personally feel uncomfortable with the thought of several things being legal, but I can't logically argue for it being illegal without a victim.

I've been thinking about this recently too, and I have similar feelings.

I'm just gonna come out and say it without beating around the bush: what is the law's position on AI-generated child porn?

More importantly, what should it be?

It goes without saying that the training data absolutely should not contain CP, for reasons that should be obvious to anybody. But what if it wasn't?

If we're basing the law on pragmatism rather than emotional reaction, I guess it comes down to whether creating this material would embolden paedophiles and lead to more predatory behaviour (i.e. increasing demand), or whether it would satisfy their desires enough to cause a substantial drop in predatory behaviour (I.e. lowering demand).

And to know that, we'd need extensive and extremely controversial studies. Beyond that, even in the event allowing this stuff to be generated is an overall positive (and I don't know whether it would or won't), will many politicians actually call for this stuff to be allowed? Seems like the kind of thing that could ruin a political career. Nobody's touching that with a ten foot pole.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s so much simpler than that—it can be created now, so it will be. They will use narrative twists to post it on the clearnet, just like they do with anime (she’s really a 1000 year old vampire, etc.). Creating laws to allow it are simply setting the rules of the phenomenon that is already going to be happening.

The only question is whether or not politicians will stop mud slinging long enough to have an adult conversation, or will we just shove everything into the more obscure parts of the internet and let it police itself.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

i have no problem with ai porn assuming it's not based on any real identities, i think that should be considered identity theft or impersonation or something.

Outside of that, it's more complicated, but i don't think it's a net negative, people will still thrive in the porn industry, it's been around since it's been possible, i don't see why it wouldn't continue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Identity theft only makes sense for businesses. I can sketch naked Johny Depp in my sketchbook and do whatever I want with it and no one can stop me. Why should an AI tool be any different if distribution is not involved?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

revenge porn, simple as. Creating fake revenge porn of real people is still to some degree revenge porn, and i would argue stealing someones identity/impersonation.

To be clear, you're example is a sketch of johnny depp, i'm talking about a video of a person that resembles the likeness of another person, where the entire video is manufactured. Those are fundamentally, two different things.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Again you're talking about distribution

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

I guess the point is this enables the mass production of revenge porn essentially at a person on the street level which makes it much harder to punish and prevent distribution. when it is relatively few sources that produces the unwanted product then only punishing the distribution might be a viable method. But when the production method becomes available to the masses then the only feasible control mechanism is to try to regulate the production method. It is all a matter of where is the most efficient position to put the bottle neck.

For instance when 3D printing allows people to produce automatic rifles in their homes "saying civil use of automatic rifles is illegal so that is fine" is useless.

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I am going to make this statement openly on the Internet. Feel free to make AI generated porn of me as long as it involves adults. Nobody is going to believe that a video of me getting railed by a pink wolf furry is real. Everyone knows I'm not that lucky.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago

Fortunately, most of my family is so tech illiterate that even if a real video got out, I could just tell them it's a deepfake and they'd probably believe me.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Does the wolf need to be an adult in human years or dog years?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

i think that it should probably be capable of consent, that would be my guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, I think he said it's a pink wolf furry, so you're probably good if he's the one penetrating. If it was a pink furry wolf, on the other hand...

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I am looking forward to this becoming common and effective. Being able to generate animated hentai in assorted styles would be neat. Lina Inverse getting boinked by Donald Duck could be a thing.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

It’s time like this that I think, ahhh, the Internet never truly changed :D

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (40 children)

Who are the girls in the picture? We can do this, team. Left to right, starting at the top.

  1. Gwen Stacy

  2. ??

  3. bayonet

  4. little mermaid

  5. ??

  6. ??

  7. Jinx

  8. ??

  9. Rei

  10. Rei

  11. lol Rei

  12. Aerith

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is going to destroy what’s left of the social fabric

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

This is the way.

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