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Fuck Windows and Microsoft really. Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call. Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework). So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux. There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 35 minutes ago

I've been saying this for 30+ years, but no-one wanted to listen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

I have a channel on my team's Slack were I just vent off on these kind of situations 😬

#windows-is-the-best, inspired from #gitlab-is-the-best, the chan were everyone vents off when the CI refuses to pick up workers 😅

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

I actually would really prefer for companies to just provide us virtual machines and I can connect to vpn and then to the work hosts. This way I can use my own setup.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I unplugged my company issued Windows 11 Dell laptop from its charger yesterday so that I could go ask a manager a question in their office, and the entire computer just shut the fuck off despite having full charge. I'm so glad I moved all my personal stuff to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 45 minutes ago

Sounds like you have a bad battery

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot

What kind of PC is this? Does it have an SSD?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

My one year old Dell Latitude with a fast SSD needs about 8 minutes every morning to boot windows and start all that security crap that company IT has put on there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

Haha that's on your shitty IT dept. I'm sure the OS has very little to do with it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

If windows didn't have such horrible security and a kernel shoddily stacked on top of an MS-DOS base, IT depts wouldn't need to install very invasive software like crowdstrike. Windows 11 also only boots up quick if it's your daily driver and you have fast boot enabled (which isn't always desirable).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

This. I have a mobile workstation with a 12th gen i7, 32gb RAM, and NVME SSD but it's not uncommon to be waiting multiple minutes for boot due to all the pre-installed spyware from IT. It takes up half the RAM at all times and severely limits the performance for many non-whitelisted apps to the point I can't even run Firefox smoothly on it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

What kind of PC is this? Does it have an SSD?

If it’s anything like my company a “New” desktop is the managers old desktop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

funny how with sooooo many updates, Windows are still very vulnerable. You buy a Windows PC, you better equip Antivirus software too; it is like bread and butter. On Linux and also Mac, you never need to worry about these things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why would someone work on hacking Linux when it's 2% of the market share?

Also, this is just false....

On Linux and also Mac, you never need to worry about these things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

To strengthen our collective security, which is shared among all who care to see- While Microsoft rarely deigns to even give an error code when shit breaks.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Windows also used to show me the ugly face of Trump in the start menu even if I didn't ask for it. That was more than 4 years ago. Recently was accidentally hovering over some 'copilot' button in Edge of a friend. And again - pop-up with Trump. So yes: fuck Windows, fuck Microsoft

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

Wow, that is some nightmare fuel type shit. That's actually crazy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Too many times I've been at the very limit of failing to deliver an assignment. I used to have classes from morning to night (used to get home at 23:00) and sometimes I did homework at uni and scan/upload in my computer since camera-scanned documents don't look as good, so I had to deliver them ASAP, but Windows would take a LOT of time to load Teams and sometimes it started applying updates at startup, so it would be SLOW AS HELL.

Just some days ago it happened again (the homework was assigned a day before) so I booted up windows and what a surprise (/s) it started applying updates, so Teams wouldn't even open. I had to send the files from there to my linux computer (I love you, KDE connect!) because I still had to add some things to the document and Teams for Linux loaded in a second lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

my boss told me today if we moved to literally any non-microsoft platform or software, i'd be out of a job.

and he's right. most of us only have careers because microsoft can't push out a software that's more than barebone functional - and everyone use them even if there are far superior alternatives out there literally only because of familiarity.

i'm not planning to stop giving microsoft shit of course. they should be criminally prosecuted over their exchange service even and how it's blacklisting competitors to force businesses onto the platform a la microsoft classic tactics. but eh.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

This. If updates are SO important, then Windows can do it while it's shutting down.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If you’re stuck with Windows for corporate-issued computers, the next time this happens you can abort shutdowns in Windows.

Command Prompt:

shutdown /a

Saved me several times over the years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Also Windows has a button similar to “don’t update this week” or similar.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Our work is the opposite. As soon as a new machine arrives we go straight to BIOS at boot, switch the settings and install Linux immediately. Windows never sees the light of day. I do feel for you as we do do sales calls and in the middle of sales calls the people that we are calling have their computers reboot on them, do an update, or I've just got to restart and on restart it does an update and huge amounts of time are wasted on those people.

Windows probably costs the world millions a day in wasted, for time for shit like that.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 12 hours ago (10 children)

How do you manage your fleet? How big is your network?

I‘d love to push for Linux at work, but have yet to see a solution with similar management capabilities than a Windows domain. And I don’t want to manage individual clients, as sysadmin I want to push templates like GPOs and the like.

Can see it work for smaller environments, but not in a company with a couple hundred machines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

One place I worked at just gave people Linux computers without telling them and disabled the boot image. The job was mostly online Salesforce, so Chrome got them through everything. Imaging was a breeze. We even made it kinda look like windows. No one really commented on it. We didnt hide it from anyone but we didnt go out of our way to make a big deal out of it.

Linux works when people stop thinking of it as "Linux". Its "Android" or "Steam OS" or "My smart TV" etc.... All you need to do is rename it and suddenly they are ok with it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I work in a higher ed org that uses a mix of (mostly) Red Hat servers and Windows & Mac endpoints; the Linux-focused admins use Ansible for things I’d do with either GPOs (if it’s something tried & true) or Intune (if it’s some half-baked newness and campus IT would actually give my group the permissions) in Windows.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

luckily i can wipe my work laptop and install linux (for now, there are discussions about not letting unmanaged devices on the network at some point...), but what annoys me is seeing how much tax money we send straight to microsoft. i work in the education sector in europe and the majority of the company's funds comes from the government, to send millions of that straight to the US, especially with the politics going on right now, seems like a horrible idea. and SO many others are doing the same thing, i swear if we invested just 10% of it into FOSS the world would be a better place already and we'd all save money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

100% retaliatory tariff on Microsoft products when Trump enacts his tariffs. And all that money goes to switching government and education over to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 hours ago

Windows fr thinks that getting updates done is more important than getting work done.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

I’m no Windows fanboy but I have to use it quite a lot, at home and at work. I don’t know what versions or settings you guys have set up but I’ve never had a Windows update I can’t postpone, ever.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 12 hours ago

In corporate managed fleet of PCs updates are pushed by the company internal management systems. Some companies give you a 24hours option, some others (ahem, power tripping sysadmins, I know, I was one) say "fuck you and your work, you install when I say so". It's not strictly a Windows thing, it's a company policy.

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