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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26226188
cross-posted from: https://lemy.lol/post/39626252
We have to agree where we ARE before we stand a chance to agree about what we do from here.
We're in for the fight of our lives trying to rescue America, and I am willing to accept almost anyone as an ally, but the barebones minimum is that people who voted for Trump FUCKING DO HAVE TO FUCKING ADMIT THEY WERE FUCKING WRONG.
Yaup.
This is the correct way to do it. We're all in the same boat no matter what choices we made that brought us here. If we keep up with the petty I told you so's or doing things out of spite of others choices were going to stay falling down this nightmare path. A lot of people make bad choices but not everyone is doing it cause they are a terrible person.
These people have cheered on the most heinous shit, you can't reconcile with that. The fuck?
"You don't have to admit you were wrong"
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What an opener to appeal for unity, Jesus fucking Christ.
The American Left and Right are indistinguishable people apart from political views.
Imagine what y'all could achieve if the circlerks were united as one big fucking circlejerk. That's what Putin is blocking because GAWD DAMN was it effective in the last century.
But if unity can't be started until someone admits something they don't believe... Cool. Enjoy the dying years of your country, furled by stubbornness above all else.
I reiterate; The American Left and Right are indistinguishable people. Shouldn't that mean something for common ground sake? Shake fucking hands ffs
The American Left and Right are indistinguishable people.
One side wants to make women second class citizens and make trans people stop existing. The other wants to protect those people's rights.
If you think the American left and right are indistinguishable, you are all sorts of ignorant.
"Nah, eight words in, I think I've got enough here to unload my insecurities without it seeming at all irrelevant to the full comment. In fact, I'm so confident I have the full context, I'll include a full-stop there in the quote. The words immediately after were probably useless. There! Now, time to finish it off with a 'If you think...' retort that will definitely be on point and worth everyone's time."
You're not wrong, but "Our division is caused by those evil foreigners" isn't it.
We have our own oligarchs, whom are much more influential than any foreign entity and have just as much interest in keeping the working class divided and confused. One of them is the literal president.
Country boys will be hot again once they burn those Trump flags.
Wait wait wait. So the people who support treating humans like they are disposable trash undeserving of rights if they dare stray from the very narrowly defined normative values are now okay because they changed sides? Fuck that. They still support violence against others and hate against the unknown. They are still undeserving of acceptance.
Supporting Nazis will make us all Nazis.
There's always these brainlet comments under this repost. Um, would you rather they stay Nazis so you can pretend to feel morally superior while not doing anything about it?
For many, the answer is "yes", because it's perfectly easy and incredibly comfortable. Why sacrifice the immediate gratification of what they're doing now with literally anything else.
They lied to themselves.
A popular older phrase...
"Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it."
If step one is to admit that they've been lied to, then step two has to have them admit that they were wrong in how they voted. Otherwise we'll go through this again, again, and again.
But that'll be a hard sell, as nobody likes to admit that they've been conned/taken advantage of. Thats human nature.
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Democrats can admit that Kamala is a shit candidate and maga can admit Trump is a shit president… it’s not that hard actually…
Democrats can admit that Kamala is a shit candidate and maga can admit Trump is a shit president… it’s not that hard actually…
Admitting that a candidate is not good is different than admitting that you voted for the wrong person that's destroying the country (regardless of party).
Also, I've never heard a MAGA person say what you said they can say (italicized part).
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Sure… but to put it into perspective democratic leadership was saying that Biden, who looked and sounded like he had dementia, was the greatest president since FDR…. They certainly need to bear responsibility for most of the fault of our current situation.
You chose to listen to the ones who lied, and ignored the ones who warned
Who the hell is going to be convinced by a patronizing image like this?
We’ve never said anything different. You’re just now realizing this.
There's no small number of people on the left who'd rather say "I told you so" than "I look forward to working with you."
We did tell them so. For years. With graphs and charts and video evidence and circles and arrows pointing to the relevant parts.
We were constantly insulted and ignored for it.
Sure let’s work together. We’ll pretend it never happened.