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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

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Disconnect between critiques of Telegram and its practical use (nitter.net)

submitted 3 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[+] [email protected] 12 points 3 years ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Especially the type of people who then praise the Fediverse as some kind of privacy alternative as if their data isn't hosted by some kid below their parents' kitchen sink.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Lol , all those data are public anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

Not all (e.g. personal conversations)

[+] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 years ago (1 children)

how is that a problem with matrix? it has minimal metadata, encrypted, and don't require any form of identification to use.

sure mostly everyone use the matrix.org instance, but that's a problem of most federated services. we're all here on lemmy.ml, while we could be elsewhere. but that's also the whole point of a federated service. you could host it yourself. if your threat level required it.

you can't host telegram. you can't host signal.

sure, could be argued that XMPP is a better option than matrix. it's old. relatively stable. and still somewhat familiar and popular throughout all these years. but that comes at the cost of no modern clients. no modern features. and opposite to matrix, no central hub/gateway or client for casual users to adopt a core service and participate through - which is pretty important if you actually plan to use a social medium.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Telegram non-encrypted conversations are nowadays comparable to Skype. Now, reread the above, substituting "Telegram" with "Skype" and you'll see the problem. If somebody calls you, all phones with your telegram account will keep ringing after you take the call. This is why you should move to signal, it is safer and less annoying for now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 years ago (1 children)

There are definitely pros and cons and I agree with many comments here that it's about threat models and personal preference while making informed choices and promoting the importance of privacy. On a related note, the most alarming thing for me about Telegram is probably the fact that almost every Linux channel on there is full of fascists (and I'm talking literal neo-Nazis with Nazi stuff in their profile photos)! Grotesque and utterly bizarre!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 years ago (1 children)

We have Wolfballs here on Lemmy too so we can't exactly complain

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

I did not see them here yet (although I am only really visiting this instance), but maybe I am not seeing that well. :P

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Compare this to Signal, where you saw everyone's phone number and it was buggy as hell

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