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[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago)

It's a good era in which to not have children. Expect a lot of forsaken children.

Also expect some coerced birthing programs such as the Leibensborn program (which was also an excuse to recruit young women as sex slaves for the Schutzstaffel ) and the offspring were supported by the state and raised by the single mothers.

This is the program that inspired the Handmaid program in Margaret Atwood's Gilead, in A Handmaid's Tale

And J. D. Vance is super thirsty for it, as is countless other Freedom caucus and MAGA Republican officials.

ETA That said, it might be a good time to get sterilized and commit to not having kids. (That doesn't mean you won't have chances to parent)

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Uh, very few countries have birthright only citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Here's the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#Unrestricted_jus_soli

If I'm counting correctly, 34 countries with unrestricted birthright citizenship, and 40 with restricted.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 hours ago

Well your kid won't get citizenship, but you'll be able to afford to birth them.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Is birth citizenship that common? Won't work here in Germany for example...

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Literally zero European countries do it. It seems to be in the Americas only, and Chad and Tanzania. The concept that this is some human right apparently only applies to he US.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's because we had a whole thing of people claiming that people born enslaved weren't citizens or eligible to vote

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

I'm curious what the difference between how America went about giving slaves citizenship versus countries in Europe. There's the obvious difference of birthright that's an issue today, just curious why America ended up here and Europe did not.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

None in Europe

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Hah! Good luck finding one

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Which is really only used in the americas. Europe/Asia doesn’t use it, except in specific circumstances where the child wouldn’t be eligible for citizenship elsewhere. But even that is only due to treaties set up to prevent stateless people. If the child would have citizenship elsewhere (like in America), the European/asian country would tell them to apply there instead.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Not in Italy

[–] [email protected] 81 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't work in most countries. Being stateless isn't very fun.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

US citizenship comes from the mother, if born abroad. The baby would automatically be a US citizen, possibly have dual citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Most countries don't have birthright citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

Yes, I’m just saying that the baby of a US woman would not be a stateless person if born in a country that doesn’t have it.

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[–] LyD 6 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

The mother or the father, and it depends on circumstances. The rules are more strict when the father is the US citizen.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

Also airlines won't let a pregnant woman travel at that point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

A quick internet search suggests 36 weeks (eight months), which is well into the third trimester, is the most common start of restrictions, and many airlines will accept a doctor's note the woman is low risk even past that. It was a 2008 election blip when the media got ahold of Sarah Palin flying while in labor because she wanted her special-needs baby delivered by the medical team that had prepared for him, which suggests even the written restrictions in airline policy are not consistently enforced.

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (19 children)

This only works if you go to the green countries:

Edit: Source

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago

It's pretty telling about how much Americans know about other countries that the assumption is that Jus Soli is the norm.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

What if I go to the gray countries? Do I despawn?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 hours ago

You can't go there until the next expansion.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 hours ago

They have deathright citizenship. You automatically become a citizen if you die in their territory.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Green: unlimited birthright citizenship Red: Limited birthright Citizenship Gray: (At least from my own country, Switzerland): No birthright citizenship

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

I told my wife we're going on an extended vacation in ~~Kenya~~ Tanzania. She sounds stoked.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Here`s the fun part.. you dont need an anker baby to come live in the EU. I think alot of countries here would welcome Americans who had enough of Trump

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