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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26701576

Scarlett Johansson remains adamant that Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow's death in the Marvel Cinematic Universe should not be undone.

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[–] PhAzE 1 points 1 hour ago

MCU doesn't need to bring her back, they have fantastic 4, x-men, and all their villains to handle now. Enough to make another 20 years of movies.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago

Disney really made the MCU great up to and including Endgame. It should have ended after that but Disney could not stop ass fucking that cash cow to tears. Now we are left with garbage. I followed the MCU since the beginning with hulk/iron man. I miss the old MCU. Never cared for black widow though

[–] [email protected] 117 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even the actors are exhausted with the MCU.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, that's the negative POV. It may simply be that she said goodbye to the character and has no interest in revisiting it again

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's the same effing thing over and over. Same with dinsey beating the dead corpse of Star Wars. Don't they have any new, different ideas? Or are they gonna make 5000000000000 movies about the same shit?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

Disney paid $4.05 billion for star wars. you bet your bottom dollar they're going to beat that dead horse until there's nothing left

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Have you ever read comic books?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] weew 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I, too, have read all two Marvel comic books.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Ooh, they have another one?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But… but we’re still waiting for the Black Widow and Deadpool crossover…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I would watch a whole sitcom in the style of "Married With Children" with Natashas sleeper agent family.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Every Marvel hero I like has died and come back multiple times. Why should Black Widow be any different? It doesn't make them less of a hero. It doesn't diminish their sacrifice. It just allows the character to continue being loved in new stories.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago

Maybe they shouldn't bring people back, so a death actually means something.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they really want her back, they’ll do it. “Whoa, I can’t believe the Russians cloned her, then turned her into a man, then the obvious dysphoria stemming from it caused her to turn traitor and join shield. I can’t believe she looks completely different now!” Far from the weirdest comic plot line

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

RDJ being Dr. Doom makes me think it's just going to be Tony Stark "but what if he was evil" since Iron Man and Dr. Doom have relatively similar schticks. (Keyword: relatively. Nobody should read this and feel the need to tell me why they're different. I only mean they're both egotistical geniuses in metal armor.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

There actually was a storyline where Viktor stole Tony's body and life. Leaving Tony with amnesia in his body and deported back to latveria. Except Viktor Tony became a good version of doom and Tony Viktor became an evil iron man.

[–] lobut 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is just me, but I always felt her acting talents were wasted in the MCU. Same with Brie Larson.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They got her early. She had a few solid credits to her name when she did Iron Man 2, but the smart MCU move at that point was to recruit young-ish talent and get them signed on for multi-movie contracts relatively cheap. Hopefully what we all get out of that sort of arrangement is that talented actors make enough MCU money to go off and do whatever out-there artsy stuff that creatively appeals to them and fosters their talents, rather than having to plug away in garbage movies just to pay the bills.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago

She was definitely a name before Ironman 2 with movies like "Lost in Translation", "The Island", "Girl with a pearl earring", "Black Dahlia" to name a few.

I remember people being excited about seeing her in Ironman 2.

You are right that they grabbed cheaper people originally, but they werent unknown names.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

I agree on Scarlet but not on Brie Larson, I find most characters she plays to be bland or not move me as much.

While Scarlet in Lucy, Dark Blue and ghost in the shell really really make it clear how good of an actress she is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I was very surprised to discover it was her in Room (not The Room).

[–] lobut 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What about when she played Envy Adams on Scott Pilgrim!

https://youtu.be/1xcSDYy3Dl4

I mean it was a smaller role years ago, but I loved it.

For Scarlett, I think she was amazing in Marriage Story.

[–] SplashJackson 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Great song by Metric. Black Sheep

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They brought her back over and over in the What If? series.

Maybe the real issue is that the whole MCU just needs to die.

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