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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Violence is always the answer. The questions are simple:

How do we gain a political advantage? How do we gain an economic advantage? How do we gain a social advantage?

Anyone that says violence is not the answer doesn't understand the tools that marginalize them and the people they care about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Israel has controlled the USG for decades now. We support Israel because they have been intricately and impressively spying on us since at least the 1980s and bought and paid for most of our politicians. It's just that simple, they own our politicians, and therefore: when they do heinous evil, our politicians look away.

Ukraine was invaded by our largest rival on the world stage as a power grab, and NATO decided to help.

The two situations are not comparable in the slightest.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Other way around, the US supports Israel because it secures the US Empire's interests in the region. Israel does not have nearly the power necessary to control the US, this line of thinking fails to analyze the real standings of the two countries. Presumably unintentionally on your part, the "Israel controls the US" narrative is actually pushed heavily by anti-semites, it perpetuates the notion that Jewish people control the world in a manner that recognizes the genocide of Palestinians. This is why correct analysis is important, as false conclusions aid the fascists. Anti-Zionism is correct, as is Palestinian liberation, but the US is not a victim here but is intentionally perpetuating it.

As for NATO and Ukraine, NATO countries are "helping out" not out of any moral reason, but to make hefty profits off of IMF loans and resource/mineral contracts. Additionally, Russia is not the US Empire's largest rival on the world stage, China is. It's true that Russia goes against the US, but it hasn't been a world power since the dissolution of the USSR, when the reintroduction of Capitalism obliterated Russia's economy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There will be violence in Ukraine regardless of whether weapons are sent there or not. The second option will make it so there's noone to police the russians. Pretty much like palestinians can't do much about israelis slaughtering them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I feel like you've built two straw-men and conflated them together. I haven't seen anybody arguing either case on the left side of the meme in response to the images depicted (or similar) on the right side of the meme. People wanting to send weapons to Ukraine generally tend to also say it doesn't have a Nazi problem (and may compare Russia with Nazis), and people wanting pacifism in Palestine also don't like weapons and support sent to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You’re not seeing it because this post is heavily censored

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This comment section wasn't so full or censored when I commented that, and I know the ones I saw before they were censored weren't saying that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Okay just letting you know I’m not attacking you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It's good, I would have thought the same if I were to stumble on it now. Somebody must have provided an extremely quick downvote, because I hadn't downvoted you

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