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Brave was made by an alt-right crypto bro that resigned as the CEO of the Mozilla Foundation after everyone there called him out for opposing gay rights. Fuck that guy and fuck his crypto farming browser. Do not trust that guy with your data.
And this is why I will always hate Brave no matter what
And I always hate that it's lumped into the same circles as all of these others.
~~"For google level quality, pick Kagi"~~
Kagi runs circles around Google when it comes to search
I've replaced everything else, including migrating multiple services from AWS, DO, GCP to Scaleway, but Kagi is the only thing I haven't satisfactorily replaced.
I'm using Ecosia as Qwant isn't available in my country, but it's just not the same. Something no one else seems to do is the domain rewriting, so that I can send Reddit links to Redlib, etc.
I'm going to have to try SearXNG again.
Qwant sucks in my experience. Searxng is just a fancy wrapper around others too.
Kagi is riddled by bugs, I report some almost every month
Any suggestions which are good? I don't mind at all to pay.
If you don't mind the occasional glitch, Kagi is awesome. And I'm pretty sure it's saving me money. But mostly frustration of google or qwant not actually showing me what I'm looking for, but stuff to buy.
How? Because ads work. Without nearly as much marketing I don't end up spending as much. Google's ad revenue averaged per person is actually higher than Kagi's subscription fees for some regions.
Where is SearxNG, Whoogle, 4get?
DuckDuckGo has a rather questionable privacy imo
Wym?
If you ignore that all my news articles seem to have a MSN wrapper because THATS NOT FREAKING WEIRD AT ALL.
Enjoy your msn wrapped articles? They're serving content for free, running their service for free. Yet claim to take nothing in return. But they are quite profitable.
It's a bit too good to be true
What do you think about searxng.world ?
SearXNG is great but you have to self host it or at least trust the instance provider.
trust the instance provider
To be fair, this is the case for any service you don't host yourself.
True
If far-right politics is a factor, I found a possible issue with Mojeek: https://lemmy.ca/post/41307273
This infograph should probably also include that Kagi uses the Russian search index Yandex also. It basically says that Kagi is the best search engine and that it fits all the requirements, but puts Brave in a bad light due to their CEO. If ethics are to be included, I believe Kagis use of Yandex should also be included.
https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1gvcqua/psa_the_kagi_search_engine_directly_funds_yandex/
Weren't quant and ecosia both just google and bing proxies?
Yes but they are teaming up now to create their own index
oh heck, nice!
Looking forward to it, but might take a while before the English internet is indexed by them: "Starting in 2025, our new index will be added into the database pool to serve results in both the French and German language. We are starting small and in the home countries of both Qwant and Ecosia respectively. "
Cool!
I thought duckduckgo was just using bing in the background as well.
It feels a bit like mobile phone providers, 3 big networks and all the rest just piggy back those with slimmer margins.
I just checked, duckduckgo uses bing, and has tracking for their ads
"Crossposting" my comment from the feddit.uk post:
Interested in a far-out-there project, that is still very early, lacking in manpower and money, may never pan out, but has some very interesting ideas and vision?
Check out mwmbl - a project aiming to become a truly FOSS search engine, with Wikipedia-like volunteer curating of results/training of the search algorithm, as well as volunteer scraping of the web, to build it up.
If you want to participate, their non-experimental, older and more barebones interface is easier for that:
I currently use it as my go-to "first search" engine, and if I can, I help curate the search results, and then switch to Ecosia for a second search if they were useless. That already helps in slowly training the algorithm, as well as changes the results in the index real time.
You can also support the web crawling and index building efforts with either a Firefox extension, or a CLI script.. Not to brag or anything, but letting the latter run on my server has netted them a pretty hefty increase in crawled addresses, without slowing things down here on my Fediverse servers too much.
THIS IS NOT A SUITABLE DROP-IN REPLACEMENT FOR ANYTHING YET. But if you love the idea, go ahead and check it out.