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'This is the crisis moment': Political scientist says Trump crossed a crucial red line (www.rawstory.com)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

My concern at this point is that when people eventually reclaim power and overthrow the dictatorship, the other members that willfully participated in all of this will not be held accountable and will get away free, or even worse will be allowed back into a democratic government again.

I'm kinda skipping over the majority of the timeline here. But eventually, these people need to be held accountable for the countless crimes they have committed and the worse crimes that have yet to come. The majority of the republican party should see prison for life at this rate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Life in prison is not enough. That may have been an option after the civil war if they had done what needed to be done at the time. Unfortunately, this go around, there will need to be more drastic measures, and this doesn't just involve the officials, but the supporters as well. There is a blood debt that will need to be paid if we'll ever move beyond this for good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are you calling for people's deaths?

Regardless of how serious their crimes are, calling for people's deaths is not a great way to be(e) nice.

Most of the unfortunate people who support the current administration are suffering from a lack of funding for education and other systemic issues that are not their fault. If the system were to collapse and be restructured, we should aim to help those people, not punish them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

No one is saying voters should be executed by the millions. Trump's inner circle is actively supporting his insane policies that include kidnapping innocent people and sending them to another country to rot and die. His ICE shock troops are performing the kidnapping of people who are here legally.

I think that's bad.

Those people up and down the chain are helping kill innocent people.

I think their mindset of helping to kill innocent people is incompatible with a peaceful society and community harmony.

They gotta go.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Some people, yes. I'm not interested in being nice. I'm interested in putting an end to 400+ years of racist trash making life difficult and creating as much suffering as they possibly can.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Another red line? Sorry to be blunt but at this rate the constitution of his country is toilet paper. Used toilet paper.

Anyway dictatorships hate 1) insiders who see the outside, and 2) outsiders who see the inside. So both Trump+Bukele are making sure Garcia stays in the right North American potatoship, instead of the wrong one.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

As typical his videos are spot on. The analogy is perfect here:

  • Roman Republic - there's an imperium system, to limit the power of [pro]magistrates. Caesar violates it by having an army in Italy as a proconsul.
  • USA - judiciary orders exist, among other things, to limit the power of the executive. Trump violates it by refusing to facilitate García's return.

I did mention other crucial red lines due to his violations of the first amendment, but this one is irreversible. And while I expect locals to try to move the river south (like he says in the video), much like people do here towards Bolsonaro or a potential successor, from the outside things are often clearer.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Oh, just now? Come on. He ran on dismantling the government, and somehow people thought he was kidding. That, and immigrants were causing all our problems.

I don't see how we get ourselves out of this peacefully. Despite the party line being that everything will be better for business, what happens when domestic crops are left to rot in the fields because "the terrorists" were deported?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Concentration camps conveniently situated near farms & factories & burgeoning with detained "undesirables".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

You have to concentrate them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

what happens when domestic crops are left to rot in the fields because “the terrorists” were deported?

They start using the labor of people who were sent to prison for attending a protest or writing anti-Trump stuff on social media.

They are already constructing the facilities to keep them in.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The second best time to do something is now

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And fleeing is the best choice. The U.S. can plant its own fucking trees (which it won't) while I finally feel a sense of relief on a trans-Atlantic flight.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just as Nazi Germany caused millions to flee Europe for the US, Fascist US is causing the first of millions to flee to Europe.

Here's hoping all who make it will be safe for at least several generations.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

The weird thing being that all the American gun-nuts have been yammering about their second amendment rights for so long and why it's important that they get to have as close to military issue weaponry as possible at home.

Well, boys & girls... What's happening in your government right now, might literally be the reason for the second amendments exesisting.

The problem with dictators is that people tend to vote them into office themselves, without realizing it. And then fail to dispose of them again, for the same reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's definitely irony.

People have often asked who my idol is. Easy: Ernie Blake. Ernst Bloch, which was not going to go over so well, so, name change. He founded a ski area and set my life in a direction. He fled Germany in the '30s and became an intelligence officer in the U.S. Army.

It's actually somewhat wild to think about. Imagine us putting Muslims in crucial roles for the War on Terror.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not wild at all - who better to help with intelligence than defectors?

Founder of the school I went to maybe somewhat similar to your idol, having had to flee himself once he spoke out against the regime he'd previously advised on education, then persuaded parents to send their teenagers to him after. It is said the war memorial is one of the few which has British and German in equal measure, so he wasn't successful beyond keeping his own pupils safe whilst they were still his pupils.

Wake every day overwhelmed with dread, and the clinging stench of death and misery coating my everything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Much like Nazism was not adopted by most Germans, Trumpism does not reflect the vast majority of Americans' beliefs.

One of the first rules of being a strongman is that you flood the zone with the particular brand of shit that inflates your support, such that people start to believe resistance is futile.

Unfortunately, it works.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ah, I love that even after reading this I'm not sure what the red line is exactly, because there's like three different overlapping court cases mentioned and they're all terrifying in multiple ways. /s

Also, this is nearly a copy of the Bluesky thread.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

archive.org link: https://web.archive.org/web/20250414191129/https://www.rawstory.com/trump-deportation-2671767128/