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Ukraine, Europe's ceasefire proposal includes US security guarantees, no recognition of Crimea (kyivindependent.com)

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If they give Russia Crimea they will be admitting countries are allowed to take land by force.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

If they give Russia any land...

[–] OutForARip 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why include US security guarantees, does a guarantee from Trump count for anything?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

I suspect that, because they aren’t idiots like Trump is, they’re including some stuff which is perfectly fair to ask for but which they can compromise away in the course of negotiation and still arrive at something they can live with.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Guys, just give them ~~The Sudetenland~~ Crimea and this will all be over!