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In password security, the longer the better. With a password manager, using more than 24 characters is simple. Unless, of course, the secure password is not accepted due to its length. (In this case, through STOVE.)

Possibly indicating cleartext storage of a limited field (which is an absolute no-go), or suboptimal or lacking security practices.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

One time I worked a job where you had to make EXACTLY a 12 character password using only ten letters and two numbers.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

This seems to be very common still

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I like it that the site says the max length....this is not common. I wish it was.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Some people even suggest typing a longer password over a simpler one with more special characters. It's harder to brute force.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I thought the use vocabulary lookup tables effectively nullifies the entropy benefits, if everyone started using phrases as password

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Assuming the attacker knows it's a phrase: The english language alone apparently has some 800.000 words. 800.000^6 = 2*10^35 combinations in a dictionary attack. That's comparable to 18 random ASCII characters. We might also be using a different language, or a combination of languages, or we might deliberately misspell words.

A long string of random characters will give you more combinations per password length, but there are some passwords you just need to be able to memorize, and I'd say that's more likely with the 6 words.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've had a case in the past where I reduced my password to the limit, but after account creation, I was not able to log in.

Turns out they had an off-by-one issue, and a password with a length slightly below the limit worked fine.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Happens more and more often

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You've got to stop all those who put: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

That's my password for most things, any hackers die of RSI before they get in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It'll be caught by a dictionary attack. at least do something to break up their sequential order.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Banks are the fucking worst for this. I assume it's because they're built on some 500 year old CICS mainframe.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I got a login on an IBM system. I logged in and moved to the change password mask. Changed my password to something filling out the 12 character new password field. Logged out, and got the login mask again. With an eight character password field.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Being regected for being too long. What a conundrum.

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