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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

OK - hear me out.

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Yeah, capitalism sucks - but the greying population is an issue all the younger gens have to deal with. Once again the problem is boomers (not their fault for being born though). Thankfully, Jim Henson gave us a solution.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And even more specifically, hyper consumerism-driven, wasteful capitalism more than just capitalism itself.

Well regulated and not utterly greed-driven capitalism that gets fairly taxed to support the societies infrastructure that it feeds off is not so bad. If that would ever happen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t think “not so bad” is the best phrase for that. Not as bad, certainly, but I have a difficult time saying “not so bad” about any kind of capitalism that isn’t already transforming into something like market socialism.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

It seems to be a totally naturally occurring phenomenon happening everywhere. We're developing more as a species and having less offspring as a result. Its predicted that we will hit our planets population maximum this century. Its entirely possible that the human species will never have more then 10 billion people on the planet at once. Thats our high score.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Captialism can cause low birth rate, but no economic system can survive the decimation of the prime-aged working class.

Even china's seeing low birth rates, but they have a bit more padding.

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[–] phoenixz 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That depends, really. I'm sorry, but these anti capitalism memes always show such over simplified view of the world, this is not how things work.

Take South Korea, for example. The way they are going right now, 50 years from now it might not even exist anymore. Granted, the underlying causes there for the low birth rates have a lot to do with uncontrolled capitalism, but communism won't save the country from this problem.

You still have a shrinking work force to do the required work, you still have a relatively expanding section of elders that won't work anymore but requires care instead, being an extra "burden" on the country. Less people will have to do more work over time and it causes a huge list of issues that communism really isn't going to solve.

The actual solution for South krea would be in tightening laws on their capitalist system, allowing people more time to have children in the first place. Then they need immigrants, and probably quite a few of them. Like Japan, South Korea is rather homogeneous, they're in for a surprise, I guess.

Either way, just posting these "but of course communism will solve this, communism solves everything" memes is so naive it's just child level dumb.

Communism hasn't worked well anywhere, how about some pragmatism and we start hard limiting capitalism instead, which we know does work

Birth rates are so low

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it even a crisis for capitalism? Modern day capitalism seeks to eliminate workers, the ideal for the capitalist is to make a factory full of robots with like 10 employees that manage and service them. As factory work dies the population stabilizes (it doesn't shrink, it just stops going up year over year) and the remaining population performs service jobs that can't be performed by AI/Robots or a select bit of high paying factory jobs where robots cannot yet perform the factory task.

In an even more dystopian outlook the capitalists don't even want people for service, they likely would want robot and AI service (waiters, barbers, etc) in the long game to eliminate the need for serfs.

At the end of the day the cry about population collapse and declining birthrates only makes sense when you add a desired ethnicity before the term. Example [White] birth rates or [White] population collapse. Elon Musk isn't worried about the birth rate of Japanese or South Koreans. This whole thing is about racist views on world ethnicity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Every person born is another potential consumer for [PRODUCT]

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And a medium term crisis for elderly care

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do we do about the coming unemployment crisis?

If AI replaces a lot of workers, we'll have too many people in the country. There is no healthy way to rapidly decrease the number of people in the country. A good leader thinks ahead and people stop having kids before the unemployment crisis fully hits.

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