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This would come after the abolishing of the RCMP.

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[–] swordgeek 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Fuck no.

The RCMP is problematic to say the least, both from a historical perspective and also their modern practices.

But provincial forces are worse, and can too easily controlled by partisan governments. Just look at what Smith is trying to do here in Alberta.

[–] Sunshine 1 points 1 day ago

I disagree as it allows provinces to set higher standards and guarantees safety from a potential fascist take over the federal government in 4 years having all the power without oversight. Wab Kinew would do a phenomenal job in reforming the police and BC used to have one but then one provincial government ended it overnight without the consultation of the people. I’m sure the people of Newfoundland & Labrador and New Brunswick would appreciate having more say in holding the cops accountable.

I want indigenous people to police themselves not some randos from the rcmp barging into their lands oppressing them in favour of resource development.

[–] skozzii 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Provincial forces being too strong does worry me as well, but as long as they are not militarized it might not be so bad. I wish people were a bit more wise to the bad people in our political system like Smith though. This whole politics as a team sport needs to end, "lifelong conservative or liberal" or whatever shouldn't even be a thing..

[–] skozzii 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I thought I liked how the RCMP operates, but following this missing child investigation out east makes me really worried for their ability to do any sort of police work compotently. They are supposed to be the specialists but it seems like they have no idea how to do a investigation. I'm hoping they just drop a massive dump with all the incriminating evidence you would want but doesn't seem likely.

It either needs better oversight, or make it smaller and offload some to the province's / regions. I like the idea of national specialists for these high profile things though, but doesn't seem to be how current RCMP operate.

Indigenous police forces is probably something that has should have existed for a long time now. From what I see a softer police presence with more social supports is needed everywhere.

[–] kent_eh 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Provincial police like the OPP?

[–] Sunshine 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s easier to reform a provincial police force than a federal one. And Ontario hasn’t opposed Doug Ford enough to get someone in better who will up their standards.

They can’t be worse than the RCMP where Justin Trudeau sat on his hands from actually fixing the systematic problems with them while they oppressed everyday people.

[–] alsimoneau 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Sunshine 1 points 1 day ago

Please show me evidence where they’re worse than the RCMP? Also the people voted for the conservative CAQ so they not going to improve the force.

[–] HikingVet 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lets get this part out of the way : Fuck the RCMP, their colonial roots and current repression of indigenous peoples. ACAB.

We would still need some sort of law enforcement on the federal level. Provincial forces would just allow places for the roaches in the RCMP to hide.

We need to have a plan to deal with them before we tear down the building lest they infest others.

[–] Sunshine 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How do you propose abolishing the police? What would that look like?

[–] HikingVet 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't actually propose abolishing law enforcement, I want it to be completely over hauled. Learn lessons from other countries. Implement the giod ones here.

Also root out all of the people with old types of thinking.

If younare going to have a rules based society there needs to be a mechanism to enforce those rules. Police as theybare set up aren't the answer, but neither is no law enforcement.

I'm also not arrogant enough to think my ideas as to what it should look is actually coherent.

[–] Auli 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So which country has good police.

[–] Sunshine 1 points 1 day ago

I mean the UK had cops without guns so that’s a good start.

[–] HikingVet 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I said good ideas from other countries.

But, we can start looking at which one have single digit or lower yearly body counts nationally as they seem to be doing something right.

It's not copy, it's learn and adapt.