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She Won. They Didn't Just Change the Machines. They Rewired the Election. (thiswillhold.substack.com)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago

Given how this administration can't cover shit up to save their own asses, and given Trump's very negative perception by the public right now, if there was major evidence of widespread fraud someone would have come forward with it by now. Whether for the fame, the money, the book tours, or the warm fuzzy feeling of watching Trump's lackies go to prison. This was true when swiss-cheese-for-brains made his claims of election fraud in 2020, and it's still true now.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The Republicans cheated blatantly

Ignoring everything they probably did to voting machines that is currently being discussed in courts, we know for a fact that hundreds of democratic voting centers were called with bomb threats.

Current voting fraud court case https://www.newsweek.com/2024-election-lawsuit-advances-2083391

Report of known election interference from 2024 https://www.cip.uw.edu/2024/11/05/election-day-bomb-threats-tabulator-irregularities/

That alone probably fucked with tens to hundreds of thousands of votes.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Listen if it’s true, but the democrats are not willing to fight the results, then i don’t care. At that point the cheated election becomes legitimate. And Democratic leaders are on their non intervention kick, probably either because they are complicit, or want to really rub it in to the disenfranchised voters that It voters the blue no matter who, or else it gets the tyrant again.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There isn't a mechanism to recall the president over votes, and technically we didn't vote for anyone. The electoral college did that.

So for better or worse we are stuck with the current situation until their terms are up and are forced from office, or more direct action is taken.

What I hope happens is that steps are taken to prevent that in the future. As it benefits the party in power, it likely won't be fixed anytime soon.

[–] Vex_Detrause 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can't you guys do people power? Like what the Philippines did to oust the last dictator?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sort of, but that requires our congress to get involved. Which currently mostly have a vested interest in not changing anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

And were probably complicit in being installed by this regime. They will do nothing and allow this to continue because if they keep pulling this off, they can never be voted out.

Edit fuck you autocorrect, were is a word.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago

Some academic researchers told Kamala ahead of time and she ignored it and did no investigations after. This alone says a lot.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If Kamala never conceded we would have something.

Regretfully, Kamala could have had 99.9999% of the votes ... but if she concedes the race to Trump he wins. There may be laws or legislation to punish or impeach Trump and the Republicans, and the government (led by Trump and the Republicans) could choose to pursue them ... I somehow doubt they will.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't think it works like that. We had a guy in my state who tried to drop out of a race after he was already on the ballot. He told the media he dropped out, didn't want the office, etc. When he won he changed his mind and they swore him in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

It does not legally work like that ... but it does work like that. Conceding is a tradition/courtesy, but it would be seen as an admission of losing by Republicans.

The Republicans took office. They would be the ones to take any action against Trump and Musk for cheating.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

How are we still in denial? Do we not see what our countrymen have become?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

ITT: ChatGPT tells us only Republicans are allowed to question the legitimacy of elections

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Everyone's allowed to question the legitimacy. After 60 completed cases or so, let's reconvene.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Unforgiveable.

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