just double-checking - I can't sign this as an American, right? I'm like 99% sure that is the case, but if I can help this at all I would like to!
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To sign an EU petition you have to be a citizen of a EU member state.
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Um, no. Ross Scott, the organizer of this whole thing, said that it will most likely fail. Meaning that there's still a chance of success, not that he's completely given up. The deadline for the European Citizens Initiative is 31st July, more than a month from now.
Also, fuck Pirate Software.
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They’re not getting half a million signatures in less than a week a man.
31st July is not a less than a week from now, dude...
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That is false, PC Gamer screwed up. Here are both pages of the initiative itself:
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000007
Deadlines are in the upper right. And as you can see, it does NOT say July 3rd.
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Yes, I may have jumped the gun, I apologize. What this initiative is trying to do is important to me and between Pirate Software lying his face off and one of the most prolific gaming publications not getting their facts straight... The amount of misinformation being spread around this topic just hurts my soul.
That's why you see this post. As a last ditch effort to get the petitions over their threshold.
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Wouldn't be the first petition to gain massive momentum before the finish line.
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Man I hate the pessimism. It's a month away and one organizer is saying he's done if this fails.
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You switched the dates. EU deadline is july 31st, and got a massive influx of signatures over the last two days.
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That is an unfortunate typo (3 vs 31). For reference, the official page of the EU initiative lists 31st july, the UK petition page lists 14th july.
Where? I haven't seen that.
Apparently some gamer streamer with a much bigger platform put out a bunch of videos criticizing the initiative and intentionally misrepresenting their goals.
He also refused to talk to the guy behind the initiative to get clarifications whilst still putting out more videos dunking on it. Most likely the critic got paid by the industry to muddle the waters and turn people against their own interests (as per usual).
The streamer critic is a former Blizzard employee known as Pirate Software, who apparently is developing a live service game (citation needed)
Been kinda disappointed with Pirate software recently. He positioned himself as super knowledgeable but then makes mistakes. Of course, everyone makes mistakes, but then he kinda just doubles down when he shouldn't sometimes.
My guess is that because he became quite popular quickly, he jumped into just pumping out content as fast as possible without giving himself time to properly research and investigate stuff.
I don't know about developing, but he's certainly involved in a live service-ish game called Rivals of Aether 2 as "Director of Strategy", whatever the hell that is. His name is listed in the game's credits (video). He comes up at around 01:57 mark. Really bums me out too, because I like that game :(
Yeah that’s the one. It’s sad that people take what guys like this say at face value. He’s obviously got ulterior motives (own live service game in the works and/or paid by industry) to oppose regulation that would only benefit game enthusiasts.
Bro used to chant stuff like "DRM is bad for the consumer, and I won't stand for it!" But after hearing about the initiative it instantly becomes "cmon guys, let games die, its just how things work. Get with it. Cmon you guys." Such a little weezel.
For real. It’s not hard to understand at all and he’s clearly misunderstanding on purpose.
With DRM being so prevalent these days I’m worried we’ll just have decades worth of games we can’t play one day because publishers want us buying their new games and re-releases of old games.
I make a point of buying physical copies for console where possible and from GOG otherwise. Especially when I am likely to want to replay the game a few years later.
I had some people who deal with eu council and work for them express their opinions on this petition and this petitions wording and goals are so shitty and ambiguous, even if it got the signatures it was never going to pass.
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The main points my friends brought out is "How are the games not going to be killed? "Just like make them available" is not an answer. Are they companies now forced to run the games always for eternity on their servers or do expensive reworks that may not even be possible to make them singleplayer or are hosting game servers banned now???"
Unfortunately only British citizens have a right to sign this 🥲
I'm interpreting this as tacit endorsement of arbitrary game removal.
I'm personally looking forward to seeing people whine about this is the future, losing bits and pieces of their library with no recourse.