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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

California has the 2nd highest electric rates in the country. Not sure why they want to fuck poor people even more. I'm for getting things clean, but this is treating a symptom and not the disease.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

How is this fucking poor people? They’re providing them free infrastructure upgrades.

I am in the process of electrifying and it saves me money. The electrical options are much more efficient and gas is expensive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

Don't know if you're in California and poor, or not. I am. Gas is way cheaper. Don't misunderstand me, I think things have to move in this direction, but unless it comes with a big subsidy (something along the lines of the heat pumps mentioned in the article), make no mistake, it's fucking poor people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

California is great at putting it's horse before its cart

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Same in Victoria Australia

Gas hot water systems to be phased out of Victorian homes under new energy reforms

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-24/victoria-gas-reforms-announcement/105451354

We had so much gas and it was so amazing and cheap and now we're running out of it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This sounds great but can the 70 year old grid handle the electrical load? Are they adding incentives for free or reduced solar? Is it practical AT ALL?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

California has a lot of solar already, but the incentives are not great right now, and they have added battery storage too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Add to it that if your power doesn't come from renewable sources, it's worse for the environment to switch to electric appliances. Just. This sounds like people really meaning well...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

This is California we are talking about, they have a ton of renewables in their grid

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Classic "road to hell being paved with good intentions" vibes.