Technology

No lol

ChatGPT sucks at proper answers in my experience, I tried using it to generate code or summarise documents for me, but it sucked at both.

I can google well enough to almost always get what I need, but I can also see areas where google search is pretty shit right now - almost everything non-tech related that I google gives me a shit feed of SEO-keywords-bloated pages that have no actual content.

Problem is, I don't think any search engine still comes close to Google. I've tried DuckDuckGo, and it's crap in my experience.

I've had good luck with Yandex, but everything else is meh.

What are your search engine recommendations?

Not because of ChatGPT. But I encourage everyone to stop using Google and use one of the many other search engines. Break that Google supremacy.

I moved to a non-google search engine. The problem with ChatGPT is that it sounds very plausible and truthful, but is often just making shit up.

ChatGPT is absolutely NOT the right tool for the job if you want answers to questions. People need to understand that ChatGPT is not an AI. It doesn't even have the concept of truth and fiction, let alone the ability to differentiate.

It is a very sophisticated and very advanced autocomplete, using probabilities to attempt to predict the next word (or tokens, if you want to get technical) over and over again until probability says it's done. It's great for writing boilerplate documents without any facts it has to get right, creative writing (although it tends to produce very cliche text, understandably) and boilerplate code that's been written millions of times before in its training data. Do NOT use it for anything where facts matter.

Not at all. ChatGPT is a great tool for helping with brainstorming or creating a base for further work, but I wouldn't rely on it at all for accurate answers to questions. ChatGPT's main function is to create responses to prompts that look like real answers. It has no inclination to give you a correct answer and really has no clue what a correct or incorrect answer is. With the amount of effort you have to put in to research and verify the answer ChatGPT gave you is correct, you're probably better off just skipping it and just doing the research yourself.

No I have stopped using Google because of ddg. I rarely use ChatGPT as a search tool. Maybe for recipies.

given that ChatGPT often gives you answers that sound right but are completely wrong, including - but not limited to - dates and causes of death of the very people who ask for biographical notes about themselves, made up articles, or made up legal cases, I don't see how can anyone use it as a search engine replacement.

No, I don't see it as a suitable replacement for search.

No. It is a language model, not a wiki. A very good model which can output correct info, but there is no rigid mechanism to restrict it to only facts.

Tried it for work a few times. Every single time it would give good information mixed in with complete, hard to spot bullshit which would break the result. So no, I'm ignoring the thing for now except as a toy.

No. You can't trust ChatGPT to give a reliable answer to anything, really.

I find too often that ChatGPT will just make things up when asking things outside of the basics. Most of the time it is just quicker to search for official documentation and read it than relying on ChatGPT's answers being right.

I stopped using google much because of google. But no, I have not replaced searching on the web with a chat bot.

I de-googled years ago. DuckDuckGo works just fine for me and if it doesn't I can just add a !g to my search results and it's proxied through DDG. Proton handles all the services they can. Even put LineageOS on my Android devices.

Anyone has any other recommendations for degoogling I'd love to hear them. :-)

So no. I also don't use ChatGPT though.

I switched to other non-google search engines (Brave Search/DuckDuckGo) before chatGPT.
I use ChatGPT for ideas and suggestions, or when I get stuck on something. I treat it like a very knowledgeable person who usually gets their sources mixed up.
ChatGPT points me in the right direction and that's enough to dig deeper into whatever it is I'm trying to do.

It's excellent for pseudo-code, but in my experience it isn't reliable with actual code.

I feel like most of my searches are too specific. At least specific enough that I wouldn't trust ChatGPT on the details anyway and would have to confirm the facts by googling

I use ChatGPT to discover new programming libraries that fit my requirements as it’s much easier to relay my requirements to ChatGPT than Google - e.g. a lightweight REST framework for C, not C++, that provides a steaming json parser.

Then ChatGPT lists suggestions and then I go look up those libraries and refine my chat if needed.

But for a fact-check it’s just much more reliable to use a search engine.

I prefer chatGPT, but it's more.cumbersome to use on the phone than Google Assistant.

@dl007 I have used ChatGPT in the past to help me explain topics in a simple manner, but those were topics I knew about and could confirm that the provided information was actually correct.

Google? ChatGPT?

Not if I care about the result. The UX is very appealing in that you phrase a question however you'd like and get back a plausible answer. However the need to attach to that answer a rider saying, "Or maybe this is totally not true" is a bit rough. Of course the Internet itself had this same problem back when Wikipedia vs printed encyclopedias was a debate, so I expect things to change over time.

No but I started almost googling questions in a chatGPT format before stopping myself and realizing it's a chatGPT question. Like for example asking a anthropology question about "what do we know about x species from x period?" I could google it but then do some clicking before I find my answer, or not. But chatGPT can give me something to then go ahead and google for more detail. One day soon google (or the worlds largest search engine) will = an advanced chatGPT. Also chatGPT is too early to be reliable, it's wrong waaay too much and in the dumbest ways. If you don't also use google to find sources you can verify stuff with you may end up looking really silly.