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I don't mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I'm curious about people's outlook on this situation.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

This is a tough one for me. If it was just the API changes I probably would have been hesitant but would have returned. As long as old.reddit still worked I probably would have used that.
BUT...... the AMA spez did hurt those chances. He could have avoided dragging the Apollo guy through the mud. So as long as he is there, tough to imagine I will be going back.

[โ€“] sam 2 points 2 years ago

I feel like Lemmy (like mastodon) has already achieved enough activity to continue regardless of what happens. Users may go back, but this place will remain somewhat active going forward.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'd wager most will go back. But Lemmy might retain a pretty substantial amount of its new users. I for one want to stay here, but we'll see how many content-creating users return to Reddit after the blackout.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As much as I want fediverse to become the norm, the thing is that it doesn't really matter if users switch over - content creators have to switch over. It's the same reason why Mastodon isn't very relevant, very few large names actually moved from Twitter.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'd think, there is a slight difference of content creators in reddit, vs twitter. In twitter we tend to follow people and the more famous or important they are, the more followers they have. Reddit or Lemmy is focused on linking, noone is necessarily creating content here, but linking to outside sources. In beginning of reddit, I remember most of posts were links, and later on self posts became a thing. Still lots of the posts are pointed to somewhere outside. (hence actually reddit being greedy, to claim they own the content they have in their website, they don't)

Anyway, my bottom line, so a person that is making the content, doesn't need to be here to be seen. Anyone posting a link and any community gathering enough subscribers to start a discussion over a topic is going to be enough to keep us going.

Now some good thing for us here is, even a small community with 5 people talking over a topic, but all of them participating, is enough to keep a community going. I'd say, it is even better than a multi million people community, that our posts/comments, most likely goes unseen.

The only downside is some communities, we need a big presence to have a discussion, and those will be the most difficult to migirate. For example a gaming or tech or a news community of 10 people will still discuss (mostly) the same thing a community of 1000s people would discuss. And the help they provide might be the same. (like how can I beat this game that we all have played)

The problem would be ask advice, or a local community of a city or a country of 10 people will be much limited in topics or the help they can provide, than one of 1000s or more. Hence those might stay in reddit. like AskDoctors, RelationshipAdvice, AskMen, ...

For me also hobby communities, here would be better, since it will make it easier to be seen/ discuss a topic than a larger community of reddit. On the other hand if mods of those hobby communities of reddit decide to migirate here, would cause all their members to move as well. (hobbies like simracing, VR gaming, 3d printing, ....). For these also discord is not a bad place. For example in a discord server of a 3d printing youtube channel, I get much better interaction and help, than the reddit r/3dprinting.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately with the enshittification of almost the entire internet due to a few monoliths controlling almost all traffic and the concept of the hedonic treadmill, the new shitty normal will become acceptable to most people who are not really thinking about it. Not much anyone can do about that.

In my case and for many others, there's a breaking point. It's further along than we probably would like to think it is, but for me it's being jerked over to an inferior, broken, and cluttered interface designed to maximize the amount of paid BS that I have to see while still having to tolerate the consequences of the centrist "all bigots we can sell to are welcome" mentality of Reddit ownership. It's become too much for me to want to continue to participate regularly while alternatives like this exist which haven't yet been ruined yet.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm staying put ! Lemmy is king !!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

nahhh. at least not entirely. i'm focusing on feeling more at home here, it'd feel wrong to go back. over the last months the cracks have started to show in reddit to such a degree, i was trying to escape but couldn't quite get committed enough, so this is perfect

i'm sure people will dabble in specific subs but still mainly use lemmy as best as they can

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't want to go back to reddit but as it stands now I don't see Lemmy/mastadon being it's replacement. You didn't have to read a manual to browse reddit. It was much more intuitive.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

If it's anything like the incoming waves of new Fedi users, 50-65% will go back to their services of choice and never return to the Fediverse.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure if I prefer Lemmy but I just don't want to return to Reddit. If they reverted all the changes AND completed changed leadership? Maybe, but it's a big maybe.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I hear you, but I'll tell you what. I haven't had a serious issue. There's been the occasional hiccup, but I've been on reddit for what 15 years or whatever, and lemmy is doing much better than reddit did in early years.

I'm here for the long haul, I enjoy this experience more.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Hmm, well, as for me, I've already deleted my Reddit account, and now I've permanently switched to Lemmy. The community here is genuinely pleasant, unlike the experience I had on Reddit where my questions and comments were often deleted. The people here are not only nice but also genuinely helpful! It's such a delightful place to be, and I feel a strong desire to remain here indefinitely.

I tend to be more of a lurker than an active participant, primarily because I fear that my opinions and views might be suppressed due to internet censorship. However, in this community, I can freely express myself without any apprehension (as long as I adhere to the rules).

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I prefer to be bored on lemmy than annoyed with agressive pop ups, repetitive and irellevant ads and silenced whenever i express opinion that goes against the prevailing group think. If you prefer being herded into corrals on that other site, feel free to leave.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It's almost like reddit took a page from the Elon Handbook of Management or something. I think most people will immediately go back to reddit, or try to use both for a bit. People who used something that wasn't the official app may end up here (but maybe not for the same amount of time per day/week/etc).

Whatever it is that reddit wants to monetize about its users via its app specifically is not something I want any part of.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I expect a lot of people to go back, and I can't deny that if too many people decide to go back I'll probably drift away too; hoping that the blackouts are indefinite so people stay on here and get acclimated enough to decide that this is better than Reddit (or at least has more potential)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I honestly think a lot of PPL will move to reddit, but I'm staying, lemmy's better for discussion

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I won't be back to reddit. I had enough of their BS.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I think it's really better in here. People are more friendly, there's a general feeling of being part of something. Problem is, there is a MASSIVE disparity in terms of content. Reddit has been around for a long time, and has a shit ton of users constantly posting. I really want to stay here, but I think it's gonna be a rough experience for a few months at least.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It would really help the adoption of Lemmy if we get a 'multisub'-idea, that Reddit uses, where a user could bind multiple instances' communities together, and make it appear as one community.

(So I can bind all similar instances into one).

Regardless, I won't be going back to Reddit. If I stick around Lemmy, that's kind of up to how I enjoy this platform & usability, but I can be quite stubborn with my 'morals'. Once a platform is done for me, it is done lmao.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't what you're talking about just subscribing to the different instances communities?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not a lemmy pro, but I think subscribing to multiple communities only works if that's all you ever subscribe to. If I decide I want to look at all the posts of /r/tech+technology+techsupport on reddit I can do that by writing the URL in that fashion. If I want a focused view of specific lemmy communities at one time I don't know if that's possible yet?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Well, a lot will go back, but it's also a question of who will go back.
wasn't reddit something like a 99% / 1% / .1% distribution?
Most people just read, some comment, a tiny percentage contributes.

If the power users, the contributors, moderators, and even some of the commenters would stay, the readers would stop at some point too, because there is no (good) new content.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I know this is a different situation, but I was a digg user when that nonsense went down and once I switched to Reddit I never went back. I feel the same with this. I personally will not be using Reddit again.

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