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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Lisa, if I didn't have this gun, the king of England could walk right in here and start pushing you around!"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's not as funny now that Charlie would do it if he could, with his grubby little hands.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least there actually is a king of England now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

There hasn't been a King of England since 1707.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The key to getting on with life is to have complete and utter disregard for the well-being of your children, family, friends, fellow countrymen and yourself.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"A man who has nothing to lose, has nothing to fear."

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”. - Benjamin Franklin.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does he mean by liberty exactly? I feel like we’re well past that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

:Looks at Trump MAGA slow motion facist take over of the government:

Are we really over that liberty thing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is liberty referring to freedom? Liberation from what? What is freedom? The jan 6 people were mostly getting social media washed into their behaviour. Admittedly someone has to be open to it before they can be primed but each step is necessary to achieve this kind of mania. My point is how much are we truely freely thinking when we’re constantly having our attention pulled to events that have carefully curated narratives already prepared for our consumption.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well you have the freedom to buy into whichever flavor of propaganda you prefer. I don’t think there are too many alternatives flavors of propaganda offered to Chinese or Russian citizens…

[–] phoenixz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Magas don't want liberty

Magas quite literally want a theocratic dictatorship that pushes their sick beliefs on the entire country. As they'll then control nuclear weapons, they'll likely want to push said sick beliefs upon the entire world.

Fuck magas

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes fuck MAGAs, but if the times call for it, I want the tools to do more than just fuck them.

[–] phoenixz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That honestly sounds very like armchair hero rhetoric, what do hou expect to happen?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I would expect something like the “troubles” in Ireland or nation wide rioting like we saw in the summer of 2020. We really don’t know what the future holds. But I’d rather have something and not need it than to need it and not have it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Join your local radical (in a cool way 😎) militia if you're actually worried.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sort of. This is more like “A man who cares for nothing, has no reason to care.” These people have everything to lose they just don’t think it will happen to them personally

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They want it to happen to the "other" groups to whom it's "supposed to happen"

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Active Shooter"

It's like reading about a hurricane. Almost a weather phenomenon.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

There are far fewer hurricanes. You also get a couple days warning on most weather events. I take your point though, between waking up to seeing a related push message and seeing this meme I had forgotten about it.

At least it appears nobody died, only 5 injured.

[–] Isycius 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, to be fair, what they meant to say is "There is no way to prevent this while not changing gun law, state of mental healthcare, income inequality in economic classes, or criminal law and policing issues." which is correct statement overall.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean i generally agree with your point and i know its a small detail but it kinda rubs me the wrong way when people always bring up mental health when talking about mass shootings. There isn't much of a link between mental illness and violence despite common belief. And i have ptsd, bipolar and psychosis which are often associated with violence but i and nearly everyone else with these illnesses just these shooters as nazi assholes. I don't believe you had any wrong intentions or anything and i believe that healthcare is a human right, but i thought i should clarify.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So you don't think a lot of these mass shooters went with untreated and ignored mental illness which sprouted in to things worse than most people could ever understand and it was too late? It's a huge issue that these people would show signs beforehand and nobody did anything about their mental health or bullying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im not doubting that bullying isn't involved (i mean its kinda a stereotype that its always the bullied quiet kids who shoot schools, but it happens) but mental illness symptoms no matter how severe don't really cause you to plot and attempt a school shooting. I mean maybe antisocial personality disorder could cause it but i've never heard of such a case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, of course not.. but they can cause things like disassociation, hallucinations, paranoia and loss of ones value in life. I'd hate to think anybody meant that mental illness inherently means you have a high chance of being a school shooter, because I bet 95%+ of people with mental illness would never wish harm on others and only their selves

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The gun crowd bring it up only to do nothing about it anyway. It's just something to blame, they don't want to fund healthcare, education, research and welfare, and lose their scapegoat.

[–] Isycius 1 points 1 year ago

You do have a fair point on problem of association. I don't think diagnosed mental condition have significant prediction power either. Instead, I believe that occasional mental healthcare counselling on people who we find to be normal will be the one that improve this situation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That title is what the Onion (a satirical/parody news site) uses every time there is a major mass shooting in America.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

"We've tried nothin' and we're all out of ideas!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

At this point I'm not whether sure I should be angry, cry, or laugh while crying.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hear a bunch of N thing needs to happen, but the question is will that N solution help. The question to ask is, has someone run a study on N solution, and if so what's the next best solution. Gather data like where are the things of interest happening e.g. region of city. Make shore that N solution does not try to fix a symptom and disregard a source problem. Is N thing is symptom there can be many sources which have different solutions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously there's a solution! Give underpaid and abused teachers guns and ask them to shoot a teenager with zero followup on mental health for the teacher!

/S

Genuinely makes me sick how many people have said this to me, that teachers just need to be armed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

When I had two fellow teachers tell me (not at the same time, like a week apart) that they agreed and wanted their rights respected so they could carry at work, well, I figured it was about time for me to bow out of the profession.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You can take a look at regulations in other countries. They work. Everywhere. There's no need to ask questions, everything was already answered all over the world.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've never heard anyone say this... Is there a quote I missed? Was it a conservative asshole?