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Yikes. There is quite a pattern developing in the religious right, in the US at least. We are turning back the clock folks.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

what in the fuck. this is why younger people hate religion.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is why religion is indoctrinated. While I can accept, even while not believing, the argument that spirituality is innate, organized religion is entirely a human construct.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Spirituality is innate" is such a copout for me. In my opinion, it just means people have an imagination and emotions, but I don't want to admit magic isn't real so I'll call it spirituality.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Is it useful to view spirituality as makeshift philosophy and psychotherapy? When I pick out the good parts of religion, I see it's not so different to what a stoic or my therapist might say. You can either pray for or visualize positive outcomes and either way it works to ease the mind. Hell, Nietzsche's work has basically a religious conception (the Eternal Return) without claiming absolute authority of reality.

I ask because my Mom focuses on this aspect of her religion rather than dogma. I hope it gives her what she needs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Yep, spirituality is an emergent property with respect to imagination and a lack of omniscience; if something happens that is not explainable by an individual's knowledge they'll find it easy to come up with an imagined explanation.

This is why earlier religions explained things like the seasons, weather, earthquakes, volcanos, stars, etc through imagined gods while those same, evolved, religions don't attempt to do so anymore. We understand them scientifically now.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I want to go back to the 50s because of high corporate tax rates. You want to go back to the 50s because minorities were afraid. We are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you so much I needed this

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I want to go back to the ‘50s to berate the post war town planners in the UK, as the saying goes at least the Luftwaffe had the decency to replace our buildings with nothing uglier than rubble.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

Regressivists hate progress, more news at 11.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Never forget: Men of quality do not fear equality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well said, and a fitting first comment for you on Lemmy. Welcome.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Thank you, took a few days to get my bearings, but I think I'm starting to figure it out. Looking forward to seeing how these communities grow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Oh that’s good. I may use that in the future.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

SBC also voted to affirm the explusions of two churches, including Saddleback Church, which was founded by highly respected author Rick Warren and is one of the largest baptist churches in the country. They claim nearly 25,000 people in weekly attendance. And Warren's books, including "The Purpose-Driven Life," are used all over, including in my then-relatively liberal Lutheran church. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddleback_Church

They were expelled because a woman acted as a youth pastor.

Wow. That's like kicking the Yankees out of MLB because the league thinks that players should be able to have long hair.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is not surprising as SBC membership has been steadily declining and this, alongside the overall decline of Christianity in America, is leaving only the most conservative and extreme views behind. This act will only serve to ensure the decline continues as they are really just digging their own grave.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is such a great observation that it seems obvious as soon as I read it, but it didn't occur to me at all, especially in the sense you have framed:

The decline of Christianity isn't a dissipation, it's a contraction towards the hard core.

Gaming that out leads to some pretty alarming scenarios, and that's relative to the alarming scenario we are currently living through!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

The hard core was always there, the more moderate ones were just cloaking it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is why I couldn't make it through Handmaid's Tale, its just too close to home at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I unfortunately spent around 15 years in a SBC church growing up. I do believe that is one of the reasons I no longer have anything to do with religion. They are a very hateful bunch.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

As a former SBC kid, I'm more shocked they would kick out one of their highest grossing businesses out, purely from financial standpoint. Typically, they used to just gloss over this stuff and pretend they didn't know.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

They continue their march towards irrelevance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I just want to point out that a group of people are gathering to ensure that they don't agree to follow a person that they don't have any obligation to follow anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That “pattern” has been around for at least fifty years. This is merely a continuation of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Zooming out reveals the pattern to be a spiral.

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