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I reckon it's mostly bots set up by Reddit admins and sad-sack mods who consider Reddit moderation to be a full-time job

As long as they do it on Reddit I really don‘t care anymore. Probably with the IPO Reddit will run all sorts of "opinion forming" bots and ban dissidents and so on to make sure they seem like they got the community behind them.

I just hope they leave us alone here and mostly anti-spez people come to form new communities here.

Well as long as people are talking about Lemmy, that's good for us. Any publicity is good publicity.

I don't think it's necessary for them to be trolls, I think some people want to believe that there is no alternative, since that means they don't have to change anything. The guilty conscience for supporting something they know is bad can be rationalized away by external factors.

I suspect people are that aggressive because they have to explain themselves, towards each other and towards themselves why they're staying.

This place is becoming an echo chamber.

I don't doubt that there are bots in the comments on Reddit (as if that can even be disputed) but pretending like nobody could possibly just not be interested in moving to lemmy is wrong. There's lots of teething troubles here still which need to be resolved before most people will consider it. Whinging about astroturfing comment sections isn't gonna make dankmemes or pcmasterrace come to lemmy.

Reddit HQ, or an apartment block in Russia, or a warehouse in turkey, or a basement in Saudi Arabia..

It’s frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that “Lemmy is not ready yet” and that there’s “no viable alternative to Reddit”.

That's not frustrating at all! That's GOOD! It's proof they see Lemmy as a threat, and right now, it is!

They could be legit users, FWIW, and just not understanding Lemmy enough to know what an "instance" is. Nowhere else on the internet (except Mastodon) is it a "thing" to have different instances of the same site iteracting.

Half of my comments are about Lemmy not being ready yet, or a viable alternative to Reddit. It's not a "big lie". I'm currently relying on the hover-over text to know where the icons are, brcause they're not loading for some reason. I'm confident that decentralised social media will never take off, brcause the point of social media is to bring people together rather than stick them on different servers.

Let them stay there then. We can't force people to join us here. If they choose to believe those kind of brigading comments then they do not have the level of critical thinking to become a meaningful contributor to any site. Those who wanted to move have already moved. Those remaining there are those who chose to ignore the issue, or support reddit.

I just deleted all my posts, comments and my account on Reddit. No need to get frustrated over people who wants to be a part of that shit show. Also you can't be sure that they are real people and not paid trolls to discourage people. At this point anything is possible with Reddit.

I think the majority of those people just don't care and are against change.

I can say that to the non-technical person, Lemmy would be a bit confusing due to having to pick a server. However, once you get past that point, Lemmy is a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit, as long as the user base remains active.

Well, to be fair, I do think that people have a point when they say Lemmy isn't ready or yet on scale of reddit to be equal competition. Lemmy doesn't have a userbase as large, even throughout all instances, and it also probably wouldn't be able to sustain if everyone left reddit and came here, which means less content.

But who cares? I certainly don't want all redditors to leave and come here. I do think reddit itself is probably sabotaging discussions of alternatives but there are plenty of real users who would say the exact same things. Corporate actions aside, reddit also sucked because of its users and the culture created there. Not all users add value. If those trolls, Right-wingers, and shills all came here, then it would replicate the garbage. There are some aspects of reddit I'll miss, or may sometimes dip into in the future for a transaction, like a Criterion film marketplace, but I'm otherwise happier here. If those things from reddit that I miss or want are eventually replicated on Lemmy then I'll never in any form go back to reddit. If redditors are happy with their shitposts and bot-populated or meme-speak comments on reddit but think Lemmy is the dogshit, then all the better.