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Hi,

I'm searching for an "noob-proof" matrix messenger that is supposed to replace WhatsApp.

It should have E2EE enabled by default and a backup/restore function for contacts, chats and settings (preferably local backup, but nextcloud would be fine aswell).

It would be nice if you could also mention matrix clients that work on iOS, Linux and Windows as well (if there are any), since not all of my contacts use android or are always reachable per phone.

Happy to hear your recommendations and experiences.

Thank you!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Fluffy chat is by far the easiest as it behaves more like an Instant Messenger with less focus on groups which is what makes element confusing. There's also much easier key handling and verification across devices. For anyone using a mainstream app like WhatsApp, element is a mess...confusing as hell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

As someone who uses Element, this is music to my ears. Great install choices too! (Links taken from fluffy.im, I'm just messing around with styling in the post)

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 years ago (1 children)

This comment proves Web 3.0 is here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Comments have download buttons. It is like a mini webpage within comments. Explodes my mind as a millenial who has used the internet for so long.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

idk, it's just markdown, that's nothing new.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it's just markdown

Echedenyan looks at the full HTML code without even a Markdown reference (even if are the Markdown engines the ones which provide support for it).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunate time to comment this. I've realized my error now too, not that it matters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

:^)

Someone made reference and just saw that comment and couldnt prevent myself of commenting on it.

I'm sorry.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago

Yeah but I have not seen such comments on Reddit, Twitter, Telegram or all these platforms. Maybe it is just my old POV, but I find it fascinating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

As for cross platform, there are Element and FluffyChat. There is also nheko I can recommend for desktop and cinny on web.

If you don't insist on matrix, Snikket might be a good option too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Yeah. Conversations.im and its sibling quicksy.im (as service+app bundles) are fine for android but not iOS unless you can assist with setup.

Snikket is an effort to create a deployable service+app bundle using a relabelled conversations app on android, something else on iOS, to the end user all appearing as preconfigured coherent bundle. They have plans for whitelabel hosting.

Not sure what snikket has planned for desktop - there's some promising browser based xmpp clients in development.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

The new UI for Gajim seems great too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

I was about to set up my family on matrix, but XMPP is way easier. Especially if you wanna self host.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

Even if it's easy to use, still have to convince them to install something new... You already know that part will be possible?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

Just start with Element for android and IOS these are your options

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

There is a project that lets you synchronize your XMPP contacts with a CardDAV server like Nextcloud: https://gitlab.com/djsumdog/dav-xmpp-sync

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

XMPP is not Matrix.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

Like everyone is saying, Element. But I wouldn't call it noob-proof in that it would help if you initially set it up and added the people that matter

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago

Not saying Element is the best one, but it is probably best known client for Matrix, with clients for desktop, Android and iOS. When I did my video overview of Matrix at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AVsNqH_-9M, I used Element to show it (that may be of use to familiarise your family with what it looks like.