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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

On this call there are a couple of things which I don't understand:

Offside is starting when the ball gets launched. Nobody is challenging it in this situation which is insane to me. 1 videosequence back or forth changes the entire situation in this context

If you look at the image in reality, kean gets the ball somewhere in midfield but there are a ton of players behind him. How was he even possible in offside???

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As you can all clearly see, offside technology has improved significantly.

there is a subatomic microscopic particle from his heel which is offside.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'll say it time and again, it should be the players heads that are compared, not any other body part. The head position indicates momentum and direction. Arms, legs, dicks, and all other body parts can flail as they wish, but the player's head indicates where they are going and their momentum.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Anyone who has issue with 1mm offsides being given offside has an issue with the offside rule. Not with the technology

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

With VAR being so exact by the pixel. I think rule needs to change for a least a foot or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is insane. Players play the line all the time and this much hairsplitting effectively stops that since there’s zero margin. There should be some flexibility

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is going to kill the game. The rules need to allow a 5% deviation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Which one is Kean and which one is Cryptocom?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Very unlucky for Kean and Juve, but there’s no argument to be made here. Offside is offside.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

love that when it comes to other fouls there has to be a clear and obvious error and for offsides they have to go down to the exact millimetre

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This isn’t clear and obvious. Lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's just stupid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

These calls are getting ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Watching this with my Juventini cousins who are pro-var and they are fuming lmao

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

i mean you can be pro var and also pro common fucking sense too right

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The way I see it VAR can (and likely has) be used as a tool to allow more corruption into the sport, by giving people time to decide whether to intervene or not, to officiate in whichever way, gives the outcome they want the highest likelihood to happen, I cannot be pro VAR for this reason alone.

Then you add in the fact goals are scored and people aren't celebrating, taking joy and excitement out of the sport cannot be a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nah not really, often those two things are in direct conflict of each other.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Im the dude in the green shirt in the audience, sup guys

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think I got lost, this isn't my college lecture?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I caught my wife in row 3 with her boyfriend when she was supposed to be out with her sister :(

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is not football anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thank God it was ruled off. How could the player possibly catch up to Kean after giving up such a head start? Thank you VAR for saving football once again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Should we say he’s not offside because it’s a bit too close for you

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, look at the "massive advantage" 0.5mm Kean got from this position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

looks offsides

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's actually insane lmao

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Long studs vs short studs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As long as the margin for error in the technology is within reason, works for me. I don't know if it can be calibrated to have a little leeway or whatever but it is what it is.

I'd rather live with the pointlessness of being offside by a cunt hair than have humans involved at all in objective matters.

If the technology is consistent and quick, I'll take it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But let’s be honest, such offsides as this one from keene are also an anomaly. Usually they are never as tight as this. So if the technology get’s it right 99.8% of the time and the other 0.2% is a mistake like this, i have nothing against it. Still way better them the enaglish VAR lines or on field referees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When the VAR output falls inside the uncertainty of the technology we can't consider the decision reliable! That what people are missing here. We still don't know the range of accuracy of VAR because they never disclosed it but I expect 5-10mm, not certainly 1mm

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Offsides is the one thing that VAR consistently gets right, even this call. The problem isn't VAR, but the offside rule as it stands. Now that we this tech, the offside rule should probably be changed. I'm honestly not sure how it should be, but these mm offsides do feel against the spirit of the original rule

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The real question is: how big is the VAR accuracy range. Can it even be that accurate up to 1mm?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The only thing that matters in these situations is the center of balance of the players and the part of the body which they use to control the inbound pass. But this, when both players are facing the opposite direction of the goal, is ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean....... lol?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Idiotic. How do they even know they have the exact frame correct for when the pass was made?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

pretty clear cut case, 100% offside and this is all in the intention of the rule /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like how it simulates the fans too lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They look like they are in jury duty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Looks like fifa08 crowd

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's offside? Like it's like a millimeter off but offside is an offside it would be a wrong decision if it was given a goal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It is, 1 mm offside is still offside by the rules.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s more about the questionable accuracy from this computer rendered image and further more about how the frame to check the offside is decided.

What if they chose a frame too early or late, which could make the difference of being off- or onside in this case.

The original purpose of the offside rule is being completely dismantled.

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