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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe a dumb question, but what’s the margin of error for VAR?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For offside none. It’s either off or on. Wenger is trying to change it though so the attackers body have to be completely ahead of the defender to be counted as offside

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

They’re not asking if VAR allows the attacker any leeway in offside calls. They’re asking about the accuracy/precision of the technology in generating these images, the answer to which is that the margin of error hasn’t been publicly disclosed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

“Clearly” as he means it is subjective and adds more bias and uncertainty. It’s much better to be like this where it’s a simple >0.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Presumably though the error is statistically unbiased. Meaning if it could have been less offsides it could equally have been more offsides so in either case the result should stand unless you think it’s biased and within margin of error.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I hate it. Of course it's hard to draw that line between when this is ridiculous and when it's ok, but millimetres like this shouldn't be regarded as offside imo. Earlier there was a thing when close situations like this were pro-attacking and there was not that much pickiness about it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The thing with recreating the players with 3D images instead of using the actual live image is tricky.

If the graphic designer chose generic 3D football boot template #1 instead of #2, the boot design might have been slightly slimmer and therefore not offside.

They shouldnt use 3D modelling to replace players. It’s not accurate. A ball is a ball. Players come in all different shapes and sizes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That's like a cm😭

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Are they showing the frame where the ball is released too? Madness that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

VAR and the modern offside calls are honestly killing all excitement in football. Make a run into the box basically 50/50 if it’ll stand. Implement the Arsène Wenger rule or just scrap this one atom of the attacker is offside nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Oh fuck off what is this nonsense 😂😂😂

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t have a problem with this. Offside = offside. Doesn’t matter if it’s with your whole body or with just a fraction of the feet. You (literally) gotta draw the line somewhere.

That said I would get rid of the offside rule altogether. They got rid of it in field hockey years ago, and the game (also because of a handful of other great changes) became better. Football is so ready for some radical new rules.

  • Shorter games with a playclock that stops when ball isn’t in play
  • Introduction if the selfpass after a free ball
  • Unlimetd substitution (you don’t stop the game for a substitution),
  • a penalty bench. If a player receives a yellow card he immediately sits 8 minutes on the penalty bench. Team can’t replace him duringthat period (a red card is still a red card.
  • Two timeouts per game per team. You can only call for a timeout if your team has the ball on the opponent’s half.
  • Smaller teams. Max 6 substitutes on the bench. So Mn City or PSG can’t bring unlimited starsplayers
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Offside used to not be a thing but it made football pretty shit because people would just wait near the goal to scoop something up. Football doesn't need radical new rules. It's the most popular sport for a reason. However, the sport does need AI/VAR implemented better

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Everyone who is complaining would you all be happy if he was called onside?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

When it’s this close just give the goal 🤦🏻‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm honestly shocked how brain dead half of the comments are. Offside is offside, simple as that. Doesn't matter if I steal an Xbox or a piece of candy, it's still stealing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Bit much innit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Stuff like this is why I barely watch football anymore. Sucks all fun out of the game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

VAR used in this fashion is hurting the game

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t know. I really like this auto generated audience.

Edit: seems that’s what everyone is commenting on

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

He also scored an absolute banger as well, which makes it even sadder

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

When that Swedish team came up with a way around the offside rule by balancing the ball on the foot - FIFA's response was something about the spirit of the rule had to be considered.

Is this the spirit of the rule?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

at that point, that's not offside, wtf there should be a tolerance margin for millimetric situations

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