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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The central issue is control. I'm happy to use EFTPOS but would definitely not want to see cash disappear as it's not something governments can easily track and/or move.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I stopped using cash nearly a decade ago and it feels extremely antiquated, but the future of money is scary to think about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The point of the article is that cash has fees and costs per transaction and per day that are getting larger as cash is used less. We as customers just don't see them. Transport, security, transactions all cost businesses and in places where cash is not much used, and for instance country towns, those costs can be prohibitive for merchants. Those card fees are right now probably less than cash costs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've actually gone back to using cash when most merchants are Charing a 1.5% card fee. Fuck that shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I often opt-out of stores that add a bonus fee when the transaction is high enough that it should be their operating cost, but pretty much 100% of utility bills have are tacking their fees onto the next bill.

It seems like a very anti-consumer practice that is going to become ubiquitous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah same. I'd be really interested to know what the cost of cash is, my guess is more than 1.5% with the extra effort needing to be put into banking, slower transactions, mistakes and fake notes. Seems like most businesses are just assuming laziness of their customers just wanting to tap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a tax dodge. You can skim off the top easier with cash.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, that and the fact that every credit card transaction includes a transaction fee that the business ends up paying. When they add 1.5% (I've usually seen 2.5%) they're just moving the expense from being hidden inside the list price of the things you're buying to being added at the register.

Think of it like a "bank tax” in addition to sales tax. Business could easily include tax in the price, but they don't because customers are used to seeing the lower price and having tax added at the register.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Right, but as @tfyoung said above, there are costs to the business associated with cash as well. Probably much higher, if a little harder to precisely calculate.

The time and expense associated with handling, counting, and physically banking cash is not insignificant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It's that harder to calculate part that makes some business favor cash. After all, the humans running the business are not perfect economic machines. Some people are going to favor a nebulous expense (that they honestly probably didn't consider at all) over a clear and obvious expense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm thinking of moving entirely to cash even though I'm more likely to lose it than my card. Sick of everyone getting rich off the data I provide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some places are no longer accepting cash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Still a few hairdressers and restaurants in my area that only take cash tho

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

For whatever they save avoiding tax etc, they also lose business from people who don't want to carry cash, go to atm & have change left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate where this is going, but accept that it is inevitable. As much as I value my privacy, I've well and truly fallen into the trap of using tap and pay with my phone. I don't think I've carried cash in any meaningful quantity for years now.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its not the article is more garbage from the ABC.

The amount of cash in the economy is higher than ever before.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Welcome to the Australia community. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with people, however it is clear to me that you are just trying to have a go at the ABC (as you have done previously). If you want to do that don't do it here - or if you do have some evidence that cash use is actually increasing in Australia feel free to post it.

Thank you for your understanding

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Go back to Reddit clown.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't use cash often, but it would be a shame to see it go completely. Privacy concerns aside - It does come in handy for in-person marketplace type transactions to avoid the payid scams that are running rife at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It also doesn't rely on having an internet connection which can be useful

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really wish there was a properly private digital currency that wasn't crypto. I hate using physical money ever since covid hit, it's just so dirty.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago

just spit on your money to make it your germs

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't know... my dad will find a way to give me cash instead putting it into my account.

I say that as if I'm like 15. No, I saw him on the weekend and he gave me birthday money, and the place we went to accepted card for the most part, I asked him "can I give this back to you and you can send me money" and he's like "nahh don't worry". Had to go to my local bank to deposit it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I still open every card with cash falling out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FYI you can now deposit cash at the post office. You need to supply a bank card to identify the account, but there's no fees involved.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I noticed that last night when my sister picked up a birthday present. That's pretty cool tbh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every month or two I make the trek to the local bank to get some $1 coins for the laundry in our apartment complex.

Aside from that, I use Apple Pay for nearly all in-person transactions, PayID for sending money to friends and family, and my credit card online.

I'm approaching 30 and haven't actively carried cash in over a decade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

My local laundromat has replaced their machine payments with paypass.