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Another Reddit refugee here,

I think we're all familiar with the Karma system on Reddit. Do you think Lemmy should have something similar? Because I can see cases for and against it.

For: a way to tracking quality contributions by a user, quantifying reputation. Useful to keep new accounts from spamming communities.

Against: Often not a useful metric, can be botted or otherwise unearned (see u/spez), maybe we should have something else?

What do you all think?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only instance I can think of Karma being beneficial is in highly specific forums where user reputation could be an important metric for new users, or those seeking info. Very limited.

When it gets to something as general as this it just becomes popularity/feel-good points. Not necessarily evil, but no real benefit. Upvotes are still a thing for that social media dopamine hit.

[–] MisterD 1 points 2 years ago

Age of the account can do the same for reputation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I say don't bother - if it can be gamed by bots, it will. Even Slashdot's mod/meta-mod system could be gamed by the current generation of bots, because a lot of comments / reposts look fine out of context.

If you don't have karma there's nothing to farm, and that means fewer karma farming bots and better overall quality of content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Upvotes and downvotes are nice in that they suggest that I'm not posting or commenting into the void.

I'm not overly interested in my grand total.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No, it's not necessary. Who cares who contributes a lot? If a user cares about karma, then they should just stay at Reddit. We don't need this to be a Reddit clone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Nope, it's fine the way it is right now. if its on the front page good. if not people gotta earn there upvotes. Karma whoreing makes it a competion for everyone. Everyone will be out for themselves and it will turn into reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No, and I believe to encourage free expression of opinion, negative score on comments/posts should be hidden. minimum displayed score should be 1. internally it should have impact. Too negative comments/posts should be auto reported to mods to check if they break rules.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Karma was always so irrelevant for me, I won't miss it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Absolutely not, karma was one of the worst parts of reddit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'd rather not have karma at all; or at the very least they should try something different instead of just copying what reddit did.

Some servers already decided to disable either the system completely or just the downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No, karma is a big contributer to the lesser experience that Reddit offers, while giving nothing useful in return

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No on karma but I would like to be able to buy and give awards as a way to support this

[–] mintiefresh 1 points 2 years ago

I actually liked karma points. But I can live without it. It's not that important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nah I dont even like visible upvotes/downvotes. Just incentives the complementary wrong mindset for healthy discussions.

Your reputation should be what people know of you not points.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought it did already. what are these voting buttons

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Karma is tied to an account. Just up/down votes on posts does not stick with the account that posted it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

How would this even be implemented? What's to prevent one user from generating massive amounts of karma on their own instance?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Karma isn't a bad idea in theory. But it gets abused and promotes farming bots. I dunno, it's a double edged sword

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Mfers arguing whether reddits equivalent of a captcha will affect social interaction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No. I'd rather no up voting/downvoting on comments at all. It discourages discussion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I would say something akin to what the name "karma" implies, but not something that can be farmed or botted. Almost like a rating that could factor in multiple different stats; like age of account, posts and/or comments per day, the overall positive/negative rating of said comments, post size, etc... And, it could all be consolidated into some sort of percentage and history graph or something. It would have to be actively developed and debated on to what works and doesn't work.

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