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Lemmy's source code should be hosted independent of proprietary services. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Forgefriends highlights how propriety services, like GitHub, can lock in a projects and destroy its momentum.

Lots of major free software projects are hosted by the project creators to avoid being screwed over by proprietary services.

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If Microsoft were to release a competing link aggregator; then they could persuade GitHub (Microsoft's subsidiary) into locking or removing the main repository for Lemmy's source code.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If that happens

git remote set-url origin newurl

Not saying self hosting the remote is not a good idea, just that the risk you mention is not so dramatic

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Yup, Microsoft can't relicense the code, it can merely make it inconvenient to access on their platform. It's really a non-issue.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Codeberg.org would be a good option, especially as it runs on Gitea which is working on enabling ActivityPub federation right now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

or a self-hosted gitea instance maybe ?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

We already have both of those, self hosted gitea and codeberg.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

That's an extra cost though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

It also has many nice features like pages etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I agree! There is also forge friends.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe the devs host their code on multiple repositories including Codeberg.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yep, we have 3 code mirrors.

I'd happily push for moving our issue tracking off github once a federated alternative becomes stable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I'm looking at you Gittea.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh. That is good then. A lot of free and open source projects are still hosted on proprietary services, like NewPipe.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

I entirely agree, but there's currently limitations with selfhosted forges. It's hard to ask everyone who wants to report a bug or submit a patch to create yet another account on yet another forge. in that sense, mailing list driven development is very good.

i personally would suggest to wait until gitea supports federation: as soon as it becomes possible to receive contributions from well-moderated forges like codeberg.org tildegit.org forge.chapril.org (or even gitlab instances like 0xacab.org if forgefriends project is successful) then it will be very interesting for a broad project like lemmy to have its own forge. in the meantime, we're stuck in this status quo where we all need a github account and i think in the specific case of lemmy it's a fair trade off

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Codeberg! Codeberg! Codeberg!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

codeberg.org is a gut replacement for github. github got taken over by microsoft.