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Matt Ryan is the Hall of fame line.

If you had a career better than Matt Ryan you are a Hall of famer

If you had a caree worse than Matt Ryan you are not a Hall of Famer

Rivers and Ryan aren't in the convo.

Brees is on the bubble, but I think he'll get in.

Big Ben and Eli are locks, though Eli is only getting in on narrative.

You all better keep that same energy for Ben Roethlesberger that your keeping for Deshaun Watson

Strange that you put Big Ben as a potential borderline case but not Eli Manning, because Roethlisberger was a better QB at every stage of his career than Manning was

Can't believe Ben is even being considered his, let's just say shady past.

Obviously some bias, but I think Ben makes it in and the other two don't. The two rings ALONG with the 17 years of good to great play I think puts him over the other two, and even then Ben isn't a lock like the players above him.

It wouldn't be CRAZY if one of the other two made it in, but I wouldn't place any bets on it.

Brady - yes

Rodgers - yes

Brees - yes

Roethlisberger - yes

Manning #3 - yes

Rivers - 50/50, but probably eventually yes

Ryan - no

Mcnabb - no

Romo - no

Smith - no

Wilson - 50/50, but probably eventually yes

Luck - no

Cousins - no

Stafford - unlikely but plausible

I love Philip Rivers. No way he gets in.

Once Eli Manning gets inducted into the Hall of Fame that’s when it’ll become the Hall of Very Good

Eli beat the GOAT twice when it mattered the most. If that’s not HOF worthy I’m not sure what is

Eli manning is a hall of famer. Ya I said it

I think all 3 make it, but Ryan is clearly the worst of the 3. Eli Manning should be the line. Average starting QB who happened to win 2 SB. He's on Joe flacco level. If he makes it, I get it. It would be more for his resume than his play.

Matt Ryan is not a famous nor elite player at the position of Quarterback.

The line is somewhere around Matt Ryan and Phllip Rivers, being "the franchise QB" for 10+ years doesn't get you in anymore. I would say probably just south of Matthew Stafford levels of success.

I think only Ben gets in, Matt Ryan only had 1 above good year, Phillip rivers had none

I’d say whenever he retires, Mahomes is also a sure-fire HoF, he has 2 SB, 2 SB MVPs and 2 regular seasons MVP…he is 100% already in

Ben does super bowls speak loud imo. Matt Ryan needs a sub-par inductee class to get I feel like and rivers doesn’t deserve it. You can’t be in the hall of fame if you aren’t even a conference champion…

Ben shouldn’t make it in

Ben should be in. Rivers borderline. Matty Ice no.

There is no chance Rivers or Ryan get in, not to take anything away from them. Without a single Super Bowl they’d need to have been not just good but clearly elite for five or more years.

I think Ryan and Rivers are probably the new line.

I could see that SB loss and MVP pushing Ryan in and keeping Rivers out.

But I think yards and TDs are going to be a watered down state for QBs.

I think the stats outlook will shift to high leverage stats, awards, and titles.

I feel like the line has to be Stafford

Matt Ryan and Rivers aren't even close imho.

In an ideal world only the elite of the elite get in, so Brady, Brees, & Rodgers. Realistically Ben and Eli will also get in. Rivers and Ryan (and Stafford and Russ) should not get in.

The five-year waiting period will come in handy. Guys like Rivers and Ryan might have the numbers now, but probably won’t by the time they’re eligible. Whichever ones we’re still talking about as HOFers will have much clearer cases.

It's going to be very interesting to see how they view some of these volume dudes. I think all the 04 1st rounders get in except for jp losman. I also think Matty ice gets in.

It's all weird though because Donovan McNabb won't get in.

Ben is a lock. Matt Ryan will take some time but I feel like he’ll make it eventually. That MVP greatly helps push him over the line, I feel like

Where is Stafford ranked?

Ben is pretty sure fire.

Yearly inductions to the hall of fame slowly degrades its value. Outside of parts of a single season there was no point in which Rivers, Roethlisberger, or Matt Ryan was even top 3 among his peers. Philip Rivers was never better/more deserving of HoF than Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees during his career.

If guys like that are getting in then you have to start making a case for guys who were the 5th or 6th best QB of their era - are we putting Ken Anderson and Rich Gannon in the hall of fame?

Come on Big Ben is def getting in. Not 1st ballot but he's in. Ryan and rivers nope imo

This the nicest r/nfl has been to Ben Roethlisberger, and I don't know how to deal with it lol

Ben is absolutely getting in with 2 rings and 3 appearances on his resume, alongside all the individual accolades. Ryan and Rivers have the volume stats but were unfortunately just overshadowed by their contemporaries.

Eli Manning lol. It’s funny because Eli has TWO rings and TWO SB MVPs, while being top 10 in most counting stats of all time and is seen as only a borderline case for the HOF like Rivers and Ryan, while Big Ben has 2 SB rings with no SB MVPs and is seen as a lock for the HOF.

I’d say Ben gets in. Ryan and Rivers I don’t think make it.

Ben is the line, but will likely get in because of his rings. Without them he wouldn’t. Ryan and Rivers will not.

Big Ben and probably Eli. Rivers and Matt maybe but I’ll say no.

The thing is I think the actual line is Eli, since I get the sense that's more polarizing and closer to 50-50 (maybe more like 40 in favor-60 against), whereas I feel the Ryan-Roethlisberger-Rivers area is a more secure tier where at least 2 if not all 3 of them will get in eventually even if it's the "wait 10 years in the backlog" kind of induction. They love to have QBs in their classes wherever they can get them and they're all defensible cases.

I think Ben gets in. I think Matty Ice does not. I am genuinely not sure about Rivers.

Ben is a lock

Joe Namath has awful numbers, even by the standards of the time. He is in for that SB win and general notoriety. Eli Manning will get in on the same criteria.

Big Ben will likely make it because of the two Super Bowls. But it won't be first-ballot

Matt Ryan has the next best chance out of those three, but MVP and Super Bowl appearance doesn't guarantee Hall of Fame - see Rich Gannon, Boomer Esiason, and Ken Anderson. Now granted, it seems Ken Anderson is on a path to get in as per Senior Committee so Matt Ryan could possibly do the same.

Philip Rivers, who I think was great, is probably last in the list. The lack of any Super Bowl appearance is likely his biggest obstacle. Other QBs who didn't make the Super Bowl still had other major achievements to their name, such as Dan Fouts (OPOTY, All-Pros) or Warren Moon (OPOTY, 2nd team All-Pro),