The difference is you can't taste other people's alcohol but you can smell others' smoke
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People who are going to a place to smoke typically wouldn’t mind that. Take cigar or vape lounges, for instance. Also it’s usually people who don’t smoke weed who act like the smell of weed bothers them.
You can certainly smell other people's alcohol. Most pubs reek of cheap beer
Some establishments yes, but in most places I would not smell alcohol unless someone spilled it all over the floor. It’s anyway much less compared to smoke that will stick to your clothes
Edibles might make it better. But then you'll need to give people something to do for an hour or so before it kicks in...
You mean like eating, playing board games, and socializing?
Dry vaporizers (with temperature below 200C) don't have smoke so are a lot less offensive with smell, if not odorless particularly with access to fresh air.
Also people smelling of alcohol, particularly if they are drunk or drinking liquor, is definitely a thing. Also barfing. I wouldn't doubt bars having bad smells sometimes.
Yep that's the 21st Century way to party. Smoking tastes almost disgusting after making the switch.
Bars could have bar-top vape systems and you could bring your own plant materials or buy there, but you would probably have to buy a disposable nozzle for the vape systems. Each patron could use a clean disposable tip for their visit to minimize germs.
Dutch coffee shops, you mean?
One or two every block in the old city center.
"the" old city center 🙂 The Netherlands is quite a bit bigger than the Amsterdam tourist trap 😁
That’s already a reality in some places. San Francisco, New York, and Amsterdam are some examples.
Add Spain to the list.
One can find a 'coffee shop' in nearly any city in the Netherlands. The first was Mellow Yellow in Amsterdam. They opened in 1972. From that point the formula they had, (by selling the cannabis themselves instead of the 60s, dealers hanging around in a bar who would often sell hard drugs as well), spread slowly around the Netherlands into the coffee shop culture we have today. Couple of years later in '75 our government started decriminalizing soft drugs. Early 80s a tolerance policy was set up, so coffee shops were still illegal, but could go about their busyness freely if no involvement with selling hard drugs.
Some medical dispensaries even had this vibe years ago.
I went to one in Thailand. Got to borrow a bong and play billiards and Uno and stuff, it was a real nice and comfortable little place
The issue is that a lot of people that smoke weed in place would reak. I don't think many people would enjoy the smell
Consumables only. Problem solved.
Speaking as a smoker: it's a great idea until someone manages to start a fire (or deliberately sets one.) Also smoky interiors get uncleanably grimy FAST.
A bar near me has a few cocktails that use 5mg delta9 THC instead of alcohol.
All of their alcoholic drinks can also be upgraded with 5mg thc for a few bucks more.
I've always thought this too. It's so crazy how acceptable alcohol use is compared to cannabis use when it comes to socializing for things like work.
More friendly environment w/dry vaporizers (bag, whip, or portable/extract) so there's no smoke (and note the lack of lasting/scented steam clouds that people hate about flavored vape pens). Also edibles and the like... but that just time-delay dosed food.
I would say that drinking is a longer/more gradual experience so has more reason for a dedicated space. Though I guess the passable options that I mentioned could draw the experience out, but I've never done that so I'm not sure what that's like compared to one-and-done/hanging-out-when-high.
(though as others have said, it is a thing)
California has a few of these and they’re awesome! Ive seen them in Humboldt county and LA
There have been a few private clubs in Colorado that allow this. It tends to be bring-your-own but you can smoke and do whatever once inside after buying a membership. Apparently they’re opening more official places called consumption lounges - one is opening on Colfax in Denver soon, apparently.
Your dealers home: Am I a joke to you?
Dealer? What's a dealer? Is that something I'm too Canadian to understand?
There are some board game cafes in the states. And some of those overlap with legal weed :) but smoking indoors in public is still a no-go
I like to get and be high alone though
Its hard to justify it for the same reasons we can't have Shisha bars and smoking lounges (at least where I live): 2nd hand smoke.
I can, as a non drinker, go to a bar and have myself a soda, and leave there as sober as when I walked in. If I do that in a room where everyone is smoking up, I will get high from the second hand smoke whether I want to for not.
I mean, why not just have a general social club with coffee/food, games, etc, and just step outside for a puff?
Cannabis can be edible and here in Milwaukee we're already seeing farm bill delta9 show up in bars and restaurants.
I do hope it becomes more socially acceptable to be high in places you can be drunk, but I think the smoking aspect is always going to be an obstacle.
They've got this in Amsterdam but I would say it's less accessible than bars/alcohol generally due to how polluted the air gets (despite the best efforts of filtration)
Lol, they'd have the busiest kitchen in town.
There are a number of coffee shops exactly like that in Cape Town
we have cannabis lounges where I live. it's mostly for tourists that cannot consume in their hotel rooms. no outside products allowed, a menu is provided along with rigs, vaporizers, bongs, etc.
If they replaced individual bars rather than expanded the space where drug consumption is the basis of socializing.
I don’t smoke weed, but phrasing it’s usage as “drug consumption” always annoyed me. It makes it sound like it’s the same thing as heroin or meth, which it’s not even close to the same thing.