To me, the game looked like it boiled down to Bills causing too many turnovers for their injured defense to keep up with.
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This generation’s Wide Right. Bills always on the wrong side of NFL lore.
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Man, you lose to a great defensive performance by the Broncos and the claws come out.
Thank you.
I tried to point out that the Broncos played the games of their lives on Monday and the Bills subreddit is not having it.
They're acting like we were thoroughly destroyed by a winless team.
I mean they played out of their minds yet the bills still would have won if not for a 12 man infraction. Fact is the bills lost this game due to turnovers and penalties not because the broncos were better
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I had to hear about how Allen outplayed Mahomes head to head, and how he was the best QB in the league that whole off season.
Welp.
No you didn't. What you heard was that Bills-Chiefs, like Pats-Chiefs three years prior when you were on the other end of things, was a perfect example of why the OT rules needed changing.
When both offenses are obliterating (5 consecutive scoring drives to end regulation in both games), it is borderline malpractice to leave it entirely up to a coinflip to decide which defence is being sent as lambs to the slaughter
actually Nick does a quick rundown here
There's not enough stupidity in this clip for my liking. Can you throw in some Skip Bayless or SAS to make me feel alive?
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If I cared enough I would link you the articles, opinions, and headlines that definitely did exactly what I described.
but okay.
Must have been really hard for you
life comes at you fast
Chiefs fans always the victims, right?
Allen doesn't really have weapons outside of Diggs rn. That being said, he's always played a Favre-esq style of ball that could either help or doom the team. I think defenses have kind of figured out that once you take away Diggs, Allen tries to hero ball it.
Kincaid is a good player
Sure, he's solid, but I wouldn't call him a weapon yet. Gabe Davis was supposed to be that #2 guy after that playoff game he had against y'all, but that's looking like a pipe dream now.
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I don’t understand why teams don’t use good TEs like the chiefs use Kelce. Ofc Kelce is GOATed (outside Gronk maybe) but I feel like OCs should scheme them in wayyyy more. Like I’m talking 10+ targets a game, but I haven’t looked at Kincaid’s numbers tbf
About 32 targets over the past 4 games so pretty close to that
I think the hero ball is the issue regardless of the players. On Monday, the Bills went on 75 yard drive to take the lead w 2 minutes left in the game and Allen didn’t throw a single pass.
If Josh Allen can’t be successful without more great players, he should renegotiate his contract to take less money so the Bills can get better players.
The issue is the same as Mahomes is facing now, that outside of one great target and a promising rookie, Allen doesn't have reliable targets to throw to. The most basic, stock-standard WR2 and 3s you could imagine would be an upgrade for him. Davis isn't a good WR2 and Shakir doesn't feature much.
Look at what Deshaun Watson did on the road vs a much better defense than the Broncos.
His weapons were Amari Cooper, David Njoku, Elijah Moore, and Jerome Ford (and they were down to their 4th and 5th string tackles). Allen’s group is as good or better than that, and he isn’t doing too well. Why? Bc he turns the ball over (leads the league). He’s had an interception in like 5 straight games. The pick he threw vs the Bengals had absolutely nothing to do with the quality of his wide receiver. Pass catchers have nothing to do with him fumbling the ball.
Wow, have not heard that excuse for Allen before. It could be so much worse than the group of skill players he has
I don’t buy it
Teams have overcome way worse playoff losses
They are regressing, but that tends to happen when you finally have to pay your QB.
Chiefs “regressed” when we let go of Tyreek Hill, everyone just forgot because we won the SB that year.
Eh It’s more like they’re draft picks haven’t been too stellar and their defense is just constantly injured. Combine that with the fact that Allen just wants to make the flashy play/ be the hero and it’s not exactly a winning recipe to say the least.
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Chiefs have a better QB, better coach and did a smart thing by investing in D (by drafting amazingly well) to make up for their offense being not as explosive
The Chiefs got "lucky" that they have been very good at drafting. Hitting on players like McDuffie, Pacheco, Humphrey, Sneed etc. They basically have gotten like 2 starters out of each draft which is a pretty good rate for a team that is picking in the bottom 5 each year.
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It's not the 13 second game (even though our game last year showed they didn't learn from it before half time), they simply went all in last season to win a Super Bowl and for numerous reasons mostly unfortunate, tragic even, it didn't work out. What the 2023 Bills are is what happens when you go all in and it doesn't pay off. Paid off for the Bucs, paid off for the Rams, it's the Naked Man of the NFL.
As long as they have Josh Allen, they'll be fine as a franchise, for this current team it might just not have meant to be.
They went all in? All I remember is the Von Miller signing. What other stuff did they do? It was it mostly cap stuff?
I'd say so, yeah. This wasn't a team that needed to make a number of big signings or trades, but the Miller contract and Diggs extension have definitely put them in a position where they don't really have a whole lot of wiggle room without having to lose a number of big names on the defense in FA this coming offseason. The Knox contract, as big of a fan of his as I am, isn't really paying off either.
Their cap situation was very much designed around winning a Super Bowl in 22 or 23 at the expense of the next few years.
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“The Naked Man of the NFL” is too damn good. Easily one of my favorite episodes. Takes a little bit of the sting out of being the 1/3 lol.
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The Bills got the most hype I’ve ever seen for a team that lost in the 2nd round geesh
That’s always kinda what left me scratching my head about the narrative or thought that if they could’ve won that game their destiny or whatever would’ve been different. Like maybe it would’ve been, but they lost to the chiefs who ended up losing to the bengals, who ended up losing to the rams in the Super Bowl. And then we saw them the year after play those Bengals and lose in the playoffs in a game that wasn’t even as close as the final score would indicate. I think it’s more likely they would’ve just ended up losing to Cincy the next week instead of beating the Rams and winning it all even if they had gotten past Kansas City
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Good
Lol wasn't that always the glowing argument for why they are great. They almost beat Mahomes rofl
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Missed their Super Bowl window before it even opened
Madden cover curse in progress?
This is just not true. They were 13 seconds away from beating the Chiefs in 2022 and very easily could have won the Super Bowl that year. They made the Divisional round again last year. That’s a window.
very easily could have won the Super Bowl
It’s just that easy!
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I'm a Maple Leafs' fan and we're still traumatized by "It was 4-1" and it's been a whole 10 years and change since that. Some losses just stick with you, especially the ones where you let yourself think "This is happening!"
Delusional Bills fans are ok cause the game before they beat Mac Jones and the Patriots. Mission Accomplished
Why is this the way that it is?
I bet Josh Allen still wets the bed too, many people are saying this
Daboll and Allen had a great relationship, Daboll really catered to Allen's strengths and guided him away from his worst Favresque tendencies. I think that's what's hurt the Bills the most -- when Daboll left for the Giants, along with a Bills receiving corps that's still coming along outside of Diggs. Allen is a great QB who needs to continue to develop his flow and reads under pressure.
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This is all happening because McDermott hung that giant banner with the Lombardi on it
They went 13-3 last year and lost two fluke games
It starts with McDermott; NFL teams are a reflection of their head coach. As much as McDermott's sideline demeanor would suggest otherwise, this coaching staff is an unserious operation.
I have a hard time getting too angry with the players when they are saddled with uninspired and predictable schemes, all while the coaching staff makes the kind of amateur game management blunders that an 11-year-old playing Madden would have gotten correct.
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Superstars QBs have adjusted to the new defensive mindset in the nfl. Josh has not yet.
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Bills played through their top 5 defense and special teams 19-21. The defense has been devastated by injuries the past two years (currently #1 in salary cap on IR)
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Coaching is good, not great.
That’s kinda it. Everything else is just media narratives and people who don’t know the team.
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30 years later, the bills clearly havent gotten over losing four straight superbowls
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