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How are people sending emails from their self hosted apps? I Thought MailSender would be good but i guess not. Im about to try SendPulse now. Why isnt there a service that doesnt care what you do with your emails as long as you only sending max a few emails a day?

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[–] Luci 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just setup a gmail account, just gotta turn on legacy smtp

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I use mailgun. They give 1000 emails for free monthly which is plenty for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Postfix installed on the server itself. My apps don't send many emails, why go through the complication and cost of hosting email externally?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] MrGG 2 points 1 year ago

Why isnt there a service that doesnt care what you do with your emails as long as you only sending max a few emails a day?

Because it would be overrun with phishing abuse in a matter of minutes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Send grid has no approval process and will give you 100/day for free

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same, set up a separate email that I use exclusively for services. Did this as if the app password is hacked, they have access to an account with nothing but notifications.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

AWS SES or Hetzner (where my mail id also hosted)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

gmail with separate account than primary one

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Docker Mail Server

All you need is a static IP address, a DNS record, a PTR record, an SPF record, and a DKIM record. See, it's simple, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Amazon SES. My monthly bills are between 3 and 8 cents per month

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm noob here, how to setup spam filters while trying to receive emails

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How did you guys get approved on Amazon SES? My application was instantly rejected when I specified it for outbound emails.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Guys, we are on r/selfhosted, and all the top replies are recommending cloud services? The actual fuck. I personally host my own postal server and it works great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Started using Purelymail. Easy setup with my multiple domains. Really cheap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sendgrid, Sparkpost, SES, plain gmail.

If you're only sending emails to yourself, gmail works well with no cost.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are you sending lots of mails to a large group of users. If not why not use any normal e-mail service like gmail?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A bit overkill but mxroute. Complete own Mail-environment for sending and receiving.

About 50.- a year I think it was

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Check for Black Friday deals at mxroute. I signed up last year for $10/year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Gmail with app specific password + Postfix docker container loganmarchione/docker-postfixrelay. I configure gmail in one spot (the container) and everything else connects to that container to relay out. You can easily limit destination email addresses with the container as well, so you don’t have to worry about an app going rogue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Fastmail with a specific domain and/or aliases to separate it easily by rules as needed. But I do pay for Fastmail and only send emails to myself so may or may not be applicable to you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I do the same. I like how each application gets its own password and only gets the permissions I want to give it (usually just smtp)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The SMTP relay that comes with my M365 tenant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Selfhosted Mailcow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

G suite account supports inbound and outbound relaying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I used zoho. $16/yr for mail.mydomain and myname@mydomain set up. Use groups to set up different streams/mailboxes for all the things (gitlab@/cloud@/admin@/etc). It's super easy to point things at.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i personally found SendGrid easy to setup and cost effective

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Delegating mail to an external service means you're not self hosting it.

Sending email is something you can just do. There's no need for an external service unless:

  • You're trying to deliver email to external users.
  • You really need your email to get through without ending up in people's spam folder.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're trying to deliver email to external users.

You really need your email to get through without ending up in people's spam folder.

So literally everyone actually using email.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No.

Having a couple emails end up in spam boxes isn't that big a deal for many self-hosted app scenarios.

For example, if you have a limited set of users, the setup process can involve getting an email and marking it not spam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have secondary gmail account just for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sendgrid… you’d be well within the free tier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A VPS with Mailcow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I pay $7 for a noreply user in my business starter Google workspace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use fastmail. Since I'm already paying for it as my normal email service, I started using it as my incomming and outgoing email provider for seldhosted apps. Works fine, no complaints.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

mxroute

they have a bf sale right now

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are there any third party services that don't require phone numbers for sign-ups?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Mailrise + pushover

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was using mailgun, but they recently fucked me, so I switched everything to Brevo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I got a Black Friday special at MXRoute a few years ago - $15 for the year.

Host whatever domains you want then for email.

Might get a bargain again this year if they do Black Fridays

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use duocircle.com, allows.dkim and spf. 1,000 per month for free. Gives a warning at 800 and 900 - helpful when I have a process run a little amok.

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