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How are people sending emails from their self hosted apps? I Thought MailSender would be good but i guess not. Im about to try SendPulse now. Why isnt there a service that doesnt care what you do with your emails as long as you only sending max a few emails a day?

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[–] Luci 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just setup a gmail account, just gotta turn on legacy smtp

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I use mailgun. They give 1000 emails for free monthly which is plenty for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Postfix installed on the server itself. My apps don't send many emails, why go through the complication and cost of hosting email externally?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago
[–] MrGG 2 points 2 years ago

Why isnt there a service that doesnt care what you do with your emails as long as you only sending max a few emails a day?

Because it would be overrun with phishing abuse in a matter of minutes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Send grid has no approval process and will give you 100/day for free

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Same, set up a separate email that I use exclusively for services. Did this as if the app password is hacked, they have access to an account with nothing but notifications.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

AWS SES or Hetzner (where my mail id also hosted)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

gmail with separate account than primary one

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Docker Mail Server

All you need is a static IP address, a DNS record, a PTR record, an SPF record, and a DKIM record. See, it's simple, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Amazon SES. My monthly bills are between 3 and 8 cents per month

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm noob here, how to setup spam filters while trying to receive emails

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

How did you guys get approved on Amazon SES? My application was instantly rejected when I specified it for outbound emails.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Guys, we are on r/selfhosted, and all the top replies are recommending cloud services? The actual fuck. I personally host my own postal server and it works great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Started using Purelymail. Easy setup with my multiple domains. Really cheap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Sendgrid, Sparkpost, SES, plain gmail.

If you're only sending emails to yourself, gmail works well with no cost.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Are you sending lots of mails to a large group of users. If not why not use any normal e-mail service like gmail?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A bit overkill but mxroute. Complete own Mail-environment for sending and receiving.

About 50.- a year I think it was

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Check for Black Friday deals at mxroute. I signed up last year for $10/year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Gmail with app specific password + Postfix docker container loganmarchione/docker-postfixrelay. I configure gmail in one spot (the container) and everything else connects to that container to relay out. You can easily limit destination email addresses with the container as well, so you don’t have to worry about an app going rogue.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use Fastmail with a specific domain and/or aliases to separate it easily by rules as needed. But I do pay for Fastmail and only send emails to myself so may or may not be applicable to you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I do the same. I like how each application gets its own password and only gets the permissions I want to give it (usually just smtp)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The SMTP relay that comes with my M365 tenant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Selfhosted Mailcow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

G suite account supports inbound and outbound relaying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I used zoho. $16/yr for mail.mydomain and myname@mydomain set up. Use groups to set up different streams/mailboxes for all the things (gitlab@/cloud@/admin@/etc). It's super easy to point things at.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

i personally found SendGrid easy to setup and cost effective

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Delegating mail to an external service means you're not self hosting it.

Sending email is something you can just do. There's no need for an external service unless:

  • You're trying to deliver email to external users.
  • You really need your email to get through without ending up in people's spam folder.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're trying to deliver email to external users.

You really need your email to get through without ending up in people's spam folder.

So literally everyone actually using email.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No.

Having a couple emails end up in spam boxes isn't that big a deal for many self-hosted app scenarios.

For example, if you have a limited set of users, the setup process can involve getting an email and marking it not spam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I have secondary gmail account just for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Sendgrid… you’d be well within the free tier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

A VPS with Mailcow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I pay $7 for a noreply user in my business starter Google workspace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use fastmail. Since I'm already paying for it as my normal email service, I started using it as my incomming and outgoing email provider for seldhosted apps. Works fine, no complaints.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

mxroute

they have a bf sale right now

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Are there any third party services that don't require phone numbers for sign-ups?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Mailrise + pushover

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I was using mailgun, but they recently fucked me, so I switched everything to Brevo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I got a Black Friday special at MXRoute a few years ago - $15 for the year.

Host whatever domains you want then for email.

Might get a bargain again this year if they do Black Fridays

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use duocircle.com, allows.dkim and spf. 1,000 per month for free. Gives a warning at 800 and 900 - helpful when I have a process run a little amok.

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