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Despite the outcome, this team is already visibly better under AP than it ever was with JMD. That said, it’s painfully obvious that we need to invest into a reliable offensive line with workable depth - same thing with the secondary.

I’ll give Bo the benefit of the doubt on this game, it wasn’t his best I’m not gonna call for his head but the play calling left me wanting better. The 4th & 2 shot the end zone to Jakobi who clearly gave up on the route left me sick… run 2 slants 2 hitches and a flat just get the yards and keep the drive alive. We held our own against arguably the highest powered offense in the league. But 6 points off 4 turnovers ain’t gonna win in this league.

AOC did well, 100% confident he did better than Jimmy G would’ve. We have the makings of a playoff team in my opinion and the future is absolutely brighter now than it has been in the past 1.5 years.

RN4L ☠️🏴‍☠️

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

saw at least three key plays that would have been successful if miller would have started. terrible timing buts that’s the game, next man up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone knew last year the line needed help, and McZ did absolutely nothing. Yet another failure of that regime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting how opinions differ because I think QB seemed like the biggest issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean this was a way better result than what I was expecting. Think aoc kept trying to force the deep shots instead of taking the mid range stuff. Meyer was wide open on that 4th and 2 for like 5 yards but aoc wanted the td too much. But I mean minus a few missed throws we win this game. So still way better position than we normally are in when we lose lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like play calling was fine. Aiden wasn’t hitting open guys consistently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That run on 4th and 3 and the deep shot on 4th and 2 weren't that good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If I'm AP, I take the flea flicker page out of the playbook and burn it with Maxx's cigar. It looked like a McDaniels offense out there. AP & Graham have shown enough in three games - stout defense, team cohesion, hanging tough in a close loss - but Hardegree needs to develop a different playbook to keep his job (if he even wants it).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Pass protection wasn't bad he had ample time to make a decision. Run blocking on the other hand

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It felt like Bo was calling certain plays in the first half to open up other options in the second half. I like the concept but you have to be able to adjust and gotta keenit simple for the rookie.

Would’ve liked to see more options in the flat for Jacobs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You do know you’re not allowed to be reasonable in this sub don’t you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We only ran for either 8 yards or 2 yards. At times the run blocking was good but not at all consistent. Torched us in 1st & 20 situations which we need way less of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The team never gave up. Fought till the very end which is something the team hadn’t done since coach Rich.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’d disagree with the point about the secondary. They went up against some of the best weapons in the league and held their own the whole game. Obviously Peters will need to be replaced at the end of the season, but I’ve been surprised at the level that Robertson and Hall have played at, and Bennet has looked good in spots too. I’m also pretty high on the talent that panda Jack has so there are players there to replace him on the field, but it seems like no one in the secondary can take the coverage adjustment calls, which keeps peters on the field.

Offensive play calling was really rough today. Didn’t establish a run game, and then failed to get Jacobs touches in the passing game.

Right side of the O-line is a real weak spot. I think Elumenor would be a good guard, but I’m not sure he has the athleticism/ foot work to keep up with some of the good edge rushers in this league. Maybe the stats disagree with this, but the eye test has never been very kind to Van Rotten. Dude loses often on the inside in both run and passing downs. Hopefully we sure up one of those spots in FA while drafting a rookie to sure up the depth. We were one unfortunate injury away from seeing fucking Brandon Parker

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

QB is a hole too. Glad we have a good backup, but we’re taking a QB in the first

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

AOC threw 3 interceptions. Just stop. He's not good. Jimmy also isn't good. FIND A FUCKING QUARTERBACK.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

O line needs the right tackle and 1 guard. Left needs Miller back. Secondary need depths at safety. Play calling was fantastic. We can't ask for a whole 260 plays to work with a rookie with no starting rep in training camp. We play this year out. We may even get a wild card spot if this defense keep this up. That D is good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We hung with and had a chance to beat a very good Miami team on the road in a 10am game. Yeah, losing always sucks, but I’m very happy with what I saw. I have hope again. Just need to figure out the O. D looked great.

FUCK JMD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i feel like if we play as well as the last two games, we have a legitimate shot at winning 3 of the last 5 games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly right. The line couldn't move anyone and I saw Jacobs getting caught behind the line several times. Not sure about the play calling (I didn't get to see the entire game) but the secondary got burned on the same plays a few times from what I saw

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

O-line played great, and our secondary did its job. The defense held an offense that had been averaging 32 points per game to 20 points, and did that with next to no support from the offense. They also took the ball away 3 times. That is much on the secondary as any other defensive unit.

The play-calling wasn't bad, either. O'Connell simply couldn't make a lot of the throws. He missed open men many times, and threw a very bad interception. I don't think Garoppolo would have looked much worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

QB play too. Sucked. He a back up shouldn’t be staring.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like we were intentionally playing very soft zone coverage for most of the game to try to contain Hill as much as possible and force them to work their way down the field. Which honestly worked very well and forced 4 turnovers offense just couldn't get it together. Aidan was under pressure all game and showed some rookie instincts which hopefully will be worked out somewhat by the end of the season.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Should have gone for the fg twice on 4th and short. In Miami territory. But the issue is that line. Also, Run Run Pass every time is too predictable. By 3rd they know double DA and blitz qb.

O_line and look at the other team they stacked the box on 1st they should sell fake handoff and chuck it very quickly to open WR. Outside the box. Or have Jacobs run to the side and toss it to him.

I have never played or coached but there should be a code to say fake handoff throw. But if they changed up 1st and 2nd . Teams will start to loosen. This rookie has a cannon. So burn a team for 20/30 yards or a td on a fake. Teams will back off