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Most people seem to be giving their ranks on MVP voting citing only QBs. It’s hard to imagine that just a title over 10 years ago Brees’ 46 TDs wasn’t enough to win MVP.

I’m curious as to who the real MVP candidates are. QB production is down so I’m really gearing towards awarding it to a defensive player like Myles Garrett. I know some people have also cited CMC and Hill.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They should just give to a kicker again. For shits and giggles

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it’ll end up being Lamar, but for non QB I’d go CMC, Garrett, or Tyreek in that order

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Christian McCaffrey is on the cusp. If he balls out in in the next 3 games (Seattle, Philly, Seattle) like he did in the beginning he’ll be right there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aaron Rodgers for similar reasons as to why some guy was contemplating voting Peyton Manning in 2011

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I agree it shouldn't be a QB. Let's take a look at two of the top QBs in terms of scoring. People are saying Hurts should win it but he has been carried quite a bit by his team. Allen actually has more total Td's this year (rushing and passing combined) than Hurts and the turnover percentage is similar. Only difference is Allen left the field 2x with leads that the defense choked away to Mac Jones and Wilson while Hurts defense did not choke. Bills should be 8-3 if the defense did their job against the Patriots and Broncos at the end while the Eagles could easily be worse if the Chiefs actually caught passes, which would have changed the whole MVP narrative. Both guys are similar but are not lighting it up.

So I think someone like Garrett should get it, as he has been huge in leading that Browns defense or Tyreek Hill

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Garrett if the Browns continue to win. Hill if he gets over 2000 (especially if he can do it in 16 games). CMC is a good choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Deebo Samuel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This narrative is only gaining traction because 1: people are tired of the MVP being auto relegated to quarterbacks and 2: the top quarterbacks this year are named Brock Purdy, Tua Tagovailoa, and Dak Prescott.

At this rate, one of those 3 should win. A lot of people are just haters at can’t accept a new name ascending the throne.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A QB should win MVP this year

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Brees was also better than Peyton in every statistic in 09 and they still gave Peyton the MVP. It’s a media award given out by sports writers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If these non-QBs keep their stats up and their teams keep winning:

  1. CMC, 49ers
  2. Hill, Dolphins
  3. Myles Garrett, Browns
  4. ETN, Jaguars
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If the browns win the north, Myles will be mvp

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Myles Garrett is on a FREAKSHOW pace right now - if he keeps it up, him.

Just as TJ should've won MVP 2 years ago. And JJ back in the day.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hurts is gonna win. So it doesn’t even matter

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Myles Garrett. He’s an absolute freak, and I mean that in the best way possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My pick is for Larry Bird. That guy can ball.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tyreek deserves it probably

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Myles Garrett

Jaylen Warren

Matt Canada (regardless of getting fired, defensive guru for at least half the season. Should count)

Josh Dobbs in our hearts and minds

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

CMC should be the top contender. Although I’d throw my vote towards Stroud if I’m being honest. Hurts will win because the eagles are the nfls new darling but if you put someone like baker on that eagles team they’d be doing just as well. If you put baker on the Texans they would be a bottom 5 team and I really like baker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

tyreek hill

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tim Boyle has entered the chat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Myles Garrett

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Maxx Crosby

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

QB is THE most important position in the game. The league has neutered defenses so much that the differences between a great quarterback and a mediocre or bad one is a chasm. Great play at the position automatically makes a team a contender. The Texans would be in the playoffs if the season ended right now, and that's ONLY because of CJ Stroud. I don't care that he's a rookie. Right now, I would say he's clearly the most valuable player to any team in the league.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s just the nature of the game. As much as we hate to admit it QB is by far the most valuable position in the game. They have the most influence on the outcome and overall success of the game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hill, CMC, or Garrett. I don’t see It happening, but It should.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If the Browns go deep in the playoffs somehow this year, Myles Garrett. Either way he should be DPOTY if he maintains his current level.

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My pick for non-QB MVP would be Myles Garrett

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If it wasn't a QB award, Garrett has to be the clear front runner right now. Browns defense is basically winning them games in probably the hardest division in the NFL this year.

I would've kept CMC in the running had he broken the record and not lost production in their 3 game skid. He is still on pace, with Hill being only 50 yards behind for most production yards and has the most TDs scored.

That all said, Garrett is leading one of the best defenses we've seen. The fact they are in the hunt with an offense that hasn't done them any favors this year is beyond impressive. He has the most sacks right now as well, and with plenty of games to go, 20 sacks this season isn't unreasonable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why’d you bring up Brees? He lost it to another QB. Don’t see how that’s relevant to a post about wanting a non-QB to win

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Myles Garrett, CJ Stroud, or Tyreek Hill

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tyreek all day

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s been ages since a RB has won MVP so I gotta say Lamar Jackson

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Think for a non-qb to win, they’d have to be well clear of others at their position. As great as tyreeks season has been, lamb, brown, and Allen are all still reasonably close to his number. Feel like CMC is the best bet at this point for non-qb, but still fully expect a qb to win it. I wouldn’t be surprised if purdy got more votes than CMC

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Garrett, CMC, Tyreek are only contenders non-QB

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was amazed to see a headline that Hurts had passes Mahomes for #1 in MVP odds. Had no clue either of them were really in the conversation, but I guess there aren’t any other QBs making a great case either.

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Myles Garrett

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Running back. I’m going Lamar Jackson

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tangentially related, but upon grabbing a list of historical MVP winners I found the following:

1982: Mark Moseley (Placekicker - Washington Redskins)

Time to go down a rabbit hole. The idea of a kicker winning the MVP is so foreign to me that I can't imagine this ever happening again, a true 1/1

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JJefferson certainly would’ve been at the top of the list if his hamstring didn’t explode

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Add a “Most Outstanding Player Award”, or better yet go the NHL route and have an award for each position group named after a HOF player (The Unitas, The Butkus, etc)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Trent Williams. We have two players in the MVP conversation, and neither would be without him, they were both pretty meh the games he was hurt/out

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They should just give to a kicker again. For shits and giggles

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